The Kenyan economics expert James Shikwati, 35, says that aid to Africa does more harm than good. The avid proponent of globalization spoke with SPIEGEL about the disastrous effects of Western development policy in Africa, corrupt rulers, and the tendency to overstate the AIDS problem.
I don't have a problem with giving aid but it has to be targeted towards the right areas. Something about teaching a man to fish instead of giving him fish...
No that's only a fraction of the story. Contrary to what most Westerners think, most Africans have never received aid in their lives. It is actually irrelevant in terms of percentages to life in Africa. Think of the fact that even official figures place aid as no more than 3.2% of GDP. Think that a lot of aid money ends up in Swiss bank accounts.
The fact is that most of the economic value of aid never leave the donor countries. Bush gives $30 B for AIDS, but most of the money will go to buying US retroviral, very well-paid US workers, etc.
The alternative is, instead of giving that money in aid lend it to African retroviral manufacturers, hospitals, etc. Investment and not aid is the solution. Aid approximates irrelevant, apologies to all the well-intentioned people in that industry.
Aid reinforces dependence and incapability, investment creates capability.
More reading on this issue is to be found here
Lots of USAID is a scam run for the benefit of agribusiness. In the case of gmo crops its a way to unload what the rest of the world won't swallow and Americans are too clueless to avoid.
I think part of the problem too is that people don't do their research when they give aid. It's important to know where your money is going and if the organization also has efforts to increase development in the areas where the aid goes to (also making sure it is going to the people and not the rulers or government officials is important).
Obviously, that's just part of the problem. The other end of this is the representation of "Africa" in the media. It is an incredible falsehood that offers no reality or human-perspective to what the continent (nonetheless the individual countries) are like. However, the dichotomy that our society has created is not only false, it is degrading, and slandars the dignity of the people it represents. That's the saddest part of the whole aid mess, that it propagates this feeling of us being the "savior" while in Africa there are "victims" and "aggressors." It's time we started to look at our own wrongs and started to look at the people of Africa as human-beings, not poor souls needing our divine intervention.
Sorry for the rant. But I couldn't help myself, and I feel like it's a point that few consider nowadays.
There are two programs I thought were interesting: the "give a goat" programs and microloans. Both directly target someone in need and try to do something to change their circumstances in life.
Pamela, you may object to the goats because they're not native goat species, I think they're usually some special hybrid developed to give a lot of milk.
Giant ships full of grain on the other hand do nothing to change a person's circumstances in life, they just keep them alive.
I've given goats as Christmas presents - I think it's a good idea. But remember this sort of aid is the smallest fraction of the total. Most government loans end up targeting big projects which require foreign companies to be allowed to bid - so the money goes to Switzerland and back into US corporate pockets.
Actually the goats sound like a perfect idea. Solutions that are sustainable are far better than the handouts of highly subsidized grains. My objections usually pop in, when it involves funky science experiments by the petrochemical gang, gambling with public health. Cloned goats and you'll hear me squawk but no native hybrids sound just dandy for the job. If the laws of Nature allow for the creations, it's all good for me.
There are breeds of goats which do very well in arid climates. I never looked into what sort of goats were being donated - I've owned goats, btw - but it's generally better to go for goats which live well in the climate than to go for the best milkers, or else you have to give them irrigated pasture, which sort of misses the point of a goat :)
"Goats, which are sourced locally by Oxfam, provide nutritious milk, offspring and manure for crops. They can also be sold in times of great need. The animals are provided to villagers in need and the first female kid produced is returned to the village to be allocated to others"
I don't know where I read about them being non-native. Looks like they're wholesome local goats if they're from oxfam :)
The more you do for others, the less they do for themselves.
Of course if you systematically rape, pillage, and burn a continant for a few hundred years, you'd be astonished how little it can do for itself afterwards.
Colonialist practices have set Africa back centuries and continue to cause political and humanitarian disasters today. Perhaps our current aid isn't as targeted and as well thought out as it could be -- but that's not to say that aid itself is a problem.
What we ought to be doing is creating real and viable local markets, investing in infrastructure, and - most importantly - providing strings-free loans rather than the current pork-barrel programs the IMF favors.
The more excuses you make for others, the more dysfunctional they remain.
The more excuses you make for others, the more dysfunctional they remain.
And that attitude is the paragon of wealthy, white, male privilege.
On an unrelated note, how does this phrase make any sense? the more dysfunctional they remain
Protectionist trade policies by 1st world countries further hinder what should be the worlds vegtable gardens.
Agreed there. America and Europe's agriculture subsidies are appalling.
£220bn stolen by Nigeria's corrupt rulers
By David Blair in Abuja
Last Updated: 12:17am BST 26/06/2005
The scale of the task facing Tony Blair in his drive to help Africa was laid bare yesterday when it emerged that Nigeria's past rulers stole or misused £220 billion. That is as much as all the western aid given to Africa in almost four decades. The looting of Africa's most populous country amounted to a sum equivalent to 300 years of British aid for the continent.
The figures, compiled by Nigeria's anti-corruption commission, provide dramatic evidence of the problems facing next month's summit in Gleneagles of the G8 group of wealthy countries which are under pressure to approve a programme of debt relief for Africa.
Gordon Brown, the Chancellor, has spoken of a new Marshall Plan for Africa. But Nigeria's rulers have already pocketed the equivalent of six Marshall Plans. After that mass theft, two thirds of the country's 130 million people - one in seven of the total African population - live in abject poverty, a third is illiterate and 40 per cent have no safe water supply.
With more people and more natural resources than any other African country, Nigeria is the key to the continent's success.
Mallam Nuhu Ribadu, the chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, set up three years ago, said that £220 billion was "squandered" between independence from Britain in 1960 and the return of civilian rule in 1999.
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"We cannot be accurate down to the last figure but that is our projection," Osita Nwajah, a commission spokesman, said in the capital, Abuja.
The stolen fortune tallies almost exactly with the £220 billion of western aid given to Africa between 1960 and 1997. That amounted to six times the American help given to post-war Europe under the Marshall Plan.
British aid for Africa totalled £720 million last year. If that sum was spent annually for the next three centuries, it would cover the cost of Nigeria's looting.
Corruption on such a scale was made possible by the country's possession of 35 billion barrels of proven oil reserves. That allowed a succession of military rulers to line their pockets and deposit their gains mainly in western banks.
Gen Sani Abacha, the late military dictator, stole between £1 billion and £3 billion during his five-year rule.
"We are only now beginning to come to grips with some of what he did," Mr Nwajah said.
Nigeria has scoured the world for Abacha's assets but has recovered only about £500 million.
Olusegun Obasanjo, the current president, founded the commission and launched a crackdown on corruption to try to end the country's reputation as Africa's most venal. The figures all apply to the period before he came to power.
The amount of money involved has prompted the Government to seek ways to enhance Britain's ability to help developing countries recover stolen funds. In the autumn the Government will introduce legislation to pave the way for British ratification of the United Nations convention against corruption.
A money laundering directive agreed by EU finance ministers this month will impose new responsibilities on banks, casinos and other establishments to be more alert to signs of corruption. They will be expected to help stamp out financial abuse by high-risk customers in a position to abuse public office for private gain.
Mr Obasanjo will travel to the G8 summit to press the case for debt relief. Nigeria is Africa's biggest debtor, with loans of almost £20 billion, because previous rulers not only looted the country but also borrowed heavily against future oil revenues.
The G8 has refused to cancel Nigeria's loans, despite writing off the debts of 14 other African countries this month.
Prof Pat Utomi, of Lagos Business School, said that was the right decision. "Who is to say you won't see the same behaviour again if it is all written off?" he said.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/06/25/wnig25.xml
Never let it be said that you let a little thing like copyright get in your way.
In the early 1960s, my family lived in Dungas, a hamlet in Niger Republic, in the Sahel region at the south of the Sahara. The road ends at our house. Its only export is peanuts.
USAID sent up a farm tractor, a plow and a harrow. The USAID advisors fired up the tractor, plowed a field (at the wrong time of year, sending up billows of dust) duly impressing the incredulous Hausas. It ran for a few months, until the oil in the crankcase was exhausted, for nobody in Dungas had the sense to check the oil or do routine maintenance. For many years, its rusting carcase sat near the center of town, a plaything for the local children. For all I know, it sits there still.
Africa is like a Planck Blackbody, absorbing every iota and centime of goodwill expended into it. The money is re-radiated by Africa's leadership into Swiss bank accounts. The World Bank loans money, it is promptly wicked up by graft and corruption, leaving the country hugely indebted, worse off than before.
Missionaries, Peace Corps types, aid organizations, private philanthropists, they've all tried to make a difference in Africa, to no good effect. For Africa is broken to its core, still laboring under the insanity of the colonial borders. There is no good reason for Africa's poverty, it has natural resources and should have educated people. Everyone with a decent education leaves, for America or Europe. My parents saw good students go from Africa to America for educations, these kids would promise to return, to help their own people. They never did return, not one of them. Missionaries and aid workers of all sorts are profoundly naive, to believe Africans care about Africa. Africans hate Africa, and everything for which it stands: these countries are an insane fiction and its governments are so profoundly dysfunctional it beggars imagination.
One of my father's favorite jokes: An Asian dictator is sitting on the back porch of his mountain villa, smoking a fat cigar with his cronies. In the valley below, a six lane expressway snaked along, full of cars, exit ramps led to office buildings, parking lots full of cars. "See that highway?" the dictator asked his cronies. Waving his cigar at it, he crowed "I stole 30% of the budget to build this villa."
An African dictator sits in his mountain villa with his cronies, smoking a fat cigar. In the valley below, a trail snaked along, a donkey covered with firewood is led by an old woman down the path to a lean-to. "See that expressway down there?" asked the African dictator. "Well, neither do I. I stole 100% of the budget to build this villa."
And that, my friend, is Africa in a nutshell. Niger is the poorest country in the world, by some estimates. Nigeria, a country I know well, is now worse off than it was before oil was discovered. Until Africans decide Africa is worth saving, expect nothing to improve and everything to get worse.
Colonialist practices have set Africa back centuries and continue to cause political and humanitarian disasters today. Perhaps our current aid isn't as targeted and as well thought out as it could be -- but that's not to say that aid itself is a problem.
What???? When the colonists left Africa, the factories fell into disarray, trucks cars and farm equipment rotted where ever they happened to break down, the paved roads became overgrown with weeds. Africa was set back for centuries before the colonists came and will always be that way. South Africa is the only civilized part of that continent.
South Africa is the only civilized part of that continent.
why? because it was run by whites for soo long? Have you ever thought of the effects of slavery and colonialism? And for all the corruption articles you guys are pasting, I'll have you know that Nigeria has improved dramatically over the past 8 years and i personally blame most of the corruption and military dictatorships on the western world. These guys were all backed by the US,UK, etc. as long as the oil kept flowing, they never cared, and still dont care. Darfur is a great example.
With regards to AID, I suggest you all keep your money. It makes no sense to me to offer grain(bought from foreign companies) at inflated amounts and call it aid, or test experimental drugs on poor children(See Nigeria Vs Pfizer), and call that aid, and then turn around and give ridiculous loans to these same countries to develop infrastructure, so you can keep them down. It's a lot more complex than
Africa was set back for centuries before the colonists came and will always be that way
In fact statements like that irk me tremendously. If your people stay away from us and our natural resources, we'll do just fine thanks very much.
I'm also curious why they "will always be that way." What, exactly, will dictate that Africa is always "that way?" Is there something intrinsic in the land? Maybe in the people? The inference is unclear, but bordering on offensive.
What???? When the colonists left Africa, the factories fell into disarray, trucks cars and farm equipment rotted where ever they happened to break down, the paved roads became overgrown with weeds.
Arrant nonsense; Africa was just perfect during colonial rule. What extreme racist ignorance.
African aid is an example of how high level central planning fails economically. It's very unfortunate for African's that they are the Euro-American testbed for socialist economic policies and dumping ground for subsidies. The best aid we could do for them is to quit subsidizing our production and underselling theirs. Open our markets with no tariffs or duties, and allow our industries to compete directly with theirs. The only restriction I would place on it is reciprocal (which probably would kill it but that's a different issue), the countries participating can't try and use government to insulate it's industries either.
With open capital markets, and open import/export markets capital would flow into Africa for African companies to use to build their own infrastructure and factories. It's insulting to think that Europeans or American's would end up owning or controlling everything because I'm sure there are plenty of highly capable Africans that would do what entrepreneurs world over do, make good use of capital to build business. Without government created or protected industries/monopolies native companies would have a big cultural advantage on the ground and would do fine holding their own to foreign competition. In fact I'd expect the majority of investment to be in the form of joint projects to take advantage of both sides skill sets.
That which costs nothing is of no value. There are plenty of good African entrepreneurs, and they are mostly women. I know an elderly woman who charges a few francs to recharge cell phones from a car battery. She takes her battery down to the next town on a bus for recharging. There are people who build tall wooden towers, so cell phone users can get a decent signal. Africa's infrastructure is slowly emerging, despite the government.
Africa's problem is not the stupidity of its people, though many of them are illiterate. Africa's problem is its lack of effective leadership. The same is true of the countries of Mexico and Guatemala, two countries I know very well indeed, my wife is from Guatemala. Capital markets cannot operate effectively when graft and corruption exist.
The West has enabled these dysfunctional governments by paying bribes. Do not presume to blame Africans for the wholesale destruction of their countries, given half a chance and a 50 dollar loan, every woman in Africa would become self-sufficient overnight. You are sadly mistaken about the nature of African Companies, they simply do not exist. The Lebanese culture essentially runs Lagos Nigeria, it pays bribes, and actively contributes to the disgusting status quo in Nigeria. Lagos has become the chief trans-shipment point for heroin in the world. Who pays the bribes? Not the Africans. Africa remains crippled with the active connivance of the West.
I don't think we are disagreeing. I don't feel Africa has one reason for it's current state but it has some fairly recognizable issues. Graft and corruption are inherently based in violence, violence is based in government thus a solution that leads to proper government will also lead to the end of graft and corruption. There isn't a group of people born corrupt, and I'm dubious there is even a stable culture that condones corruption.
Do not presume to blame Africans for the wholesale destruction of their countries, given half a chance and a 50 dollar loan, every woman in Africa would become self-sufficient overnight.
Was this meant as a reply to me or somebody else? I didn't address anything but one specific issue, that of Western aid not other issues that impact economic and political development in Africa. And I don't understand why you are biased to women being entrepreneurs, I'd assume there would be equal proportion between genders. If there is a difference I guess it'd be a cultural bias.
I have no opinion on current African companies, I'd be surprised if there truly was none at all but it's largely irrelevant to what I was saying. Given a secure environment, open markets in capital and goods it is logical for locally based groups of businesspeople to take off. The stable government is the hard part, but I think the article author was correct that the best way to end it is simply to quit feeding it. However to help the people versus the governments free and unbiased trade should be established at the same time.
Some folks seem to have a very selective view of history. Why is it that we always identify colonialism and empire with the West? Have we forgotten about the Persian empire, the Macedonian empire, the Islamic empire, the Mongol empire, the Chinese empire and the Aztec and Inca empire in the Americas?
Should the Arabs be paying reparations for their destruction of the Byzantine and the Persian empires? Should the Muslims reimburse the Spaniards for their 700 year rule? Multiculturalists like Killfile seem to think that colonialism ans slavery is distinctively Western. Actually the only thing that is distinctively Western is the movement to end slavery. Abolition is an exclusively Western institution.
Empire isn't the same thing as colonialism.
I'm talking about the systematic export of everything of material value, centuries of unequal trade practices, and -- in the case of Africa -- the enslavement of literally generations.
And what does this have to do with today's corrupt African leaders?
And what does this have to do with today's corrupt African leaders?
Nothing....
Except that it informs the population they "govern," the power structures they uphold, the borders they police, the economy they oversee, the culture they exist within, the foreign relationships they form, and the historical, political, and religious imperatives of their nation.
Nothing... and everything.
Why aren't you protesting the rape of Africa by corrupt Black leaders?
Why don't you write a column about it? Why have you not bashed these guys?
Why aren't you protesting the rape of Africa by corrupt Black leaders?
Why don't you write a column about it? Why have you not bashed these guys?
Because I view the leaders as a symptom of the problem rather than the problem itself. The problem is systemic.
Seriously -- do you think that it is the corruption of individual leaders in African countries that's causing this problem? If so... why does this seem to span administrations and even governments? Is corruption a necessary prerequisite to gaining power? If so, doesn't that constitute a systemic rather than personal issue?
To put it another way -- if it's the leaders who are the problem we should be able to send in special ops teams to solve that problem. Democracy or at least prosparity should spring up and everyone should be happy. Right?
So why haven't you written columns advocating "regime change" in Africa?
Dear observer, it is easy to criticise African leaders. They're literally the worst of the worst. It is much harder to acknowledge that that's just half of the issue.
So I ask, which is worse, a dictator in a fragile 30-year old state who without institutional restraint loots $1 Bil. and takes it to a Swiss Bank or the Swiss System which has had stable democracy for 1.5 centuries which takes the money knowing its source?
It's very easy to criticise African Leaders. I stand by my conviction that these guys were allowed to operate with the backing of the Western World. It is almost common knowledge that the Industrialized world helps to kill or keep the good ones down(at least in the past). The emergence of people like Idi Amin was backed by the UK. Mobutu was inserted by the US after they arranged Patrice Lumumba's murder.
At this point in time, the US claim to be in Iraq to avoid an impending ethnic genocide if they leave right? If this is so, why are they not in Darfur where there already is a genocide?
I dont want to dwell on this too muc and i feel we should look at what's happening now. A lot of these countries are wising up(Nigeria at least), The Swiss Banks are starting to co-operate with the government, and we are seeing the extradition and prosecution of many of these looters, it's a good start and i prefer to focus on that.
I just feel many of the guys that conspired to arm these dictators and turn blind eyes on their actions also have blood on their hands and can never hide behind the same lies for centuries.
Africa's problem is not the stupidity of its people, though many of them are illiterate. Africa's problem is its lack of effective leadership. The same is true of the countries of Mexico and Guatemala, two countries I know very well indeed, my wife is from Guatemala. Capital markets cannot operate effectively when graft and corruption exist.
You have established the fact that the problem is not cognitive ability. Then why cant they seem to produce effective leadership?
Africa's borders... let us take Nigeria for example, which should be Africa's most prosperous country. Inside Nigeria's borders are confined
Hausas: found all across the Sahel in at least five countries, nominally Muslim, have implemented Sharia law where they are strongest, in the north of Nigeria, expelling tens of thousands of Christians from other tribes.
Yorubas: from the center of Nigeria, nominally Christian and animist.
Igbos: from the coast of Nigeria, better educated, have had contact with Europeans since the 1400s, nominally Christian.
At least 370 smaller tribes.
I lived through the Biafran War, when the Igbos attempted to secede from Nigeria. The river tribes are now rebelling. The Hausas are detaching from the rest of Nigeria for all practical purposes, imposing Muslim law.
The only leadership Nigeria produces comes from the barracks, not the ballot box. That's why Nigeria can't produce leadership. Niger Republic has never known an elected government. In a way, the only way Africa could ever come into its own politically is to abolish the colonial borders. This solution has always been known: both Nelson Mandela and Muhammar Khadafy have proposed the same thing, a United States of Africa.
First of all I strongly reject the use of the word tribe. Why do you people always have to take this flawed way of looking at the continent. The Niger Delta struggle has nothing whatsoever to do with ethnicity. It is being led mostly by Ijaws (the 10 million of which is by no means a tribe) but it is an issue in federalism, robber-baronism and sovereignty. How can you call Hausas a tribe? People united under a kingdom for many centuries? How can 30 million Yorubas be a tribe? Yorubas who were united under a complex constitutional kingdom for most of 800 years? The tribal narrative as default for talking about Africa is pure nonsense, and it stops a lot of people from understanding the continent.
Africa is one generation away from where people think it is. Unlike in the Middle East or Asia there is little disagreement about democracy and liberalisation being the way for example. The problem remains elites welded into a way of dealing that's about corruption and exploitation. But African governments have done a lot of reform in the last decade but how would you know when all you read about the continent is bad news? Just remember; wherever you are in 10 years that I predicted today, an unparalleled decade of progress for Africa.
I agree with many of your points though.
I will not bandy words with you, if I call them tribes, you know exactly what I mean. Nigeria suffers from its own endemic racism, as you very well know, Oluseye. It's obviously a Yoruba name. I lived through the Biafran War, if my guess is correct, you were too young to remember it. I watched Igbos hacked to death on the streets of Kano, your protests about "tribes" fall on deaf ears. Nigeria is perhaps the worst-governed nation in the world.
In the immortal words of Fela Kuti:
Whether you like or you no like
Army Arrangement
I don't know what you mean. Your use of that word is wrong, it is inexact and it is racially charged.
Is Nigeria one of the worst-governed countries in the world? Absolutski! How does that justify you calling Yorubas a tribe. You're wrong on that. There are 30 Million of them in some 8 countries. How can 30 million people be a tribe?
Oluseye in Yoruba means "God has done something miraculous that I deserve". "Eye" is a difficult word to translate.
Quoting Fela is always cool but it much less frequently as in this case legitimises misuse of words.
Oluseye -- "tribe" isn't about numbers. It is about cultural and familial identity. Tribalism is not a pejorative word -- at least not in the political sense of the word. It has strong and direct connotations about identity and association -- about how authority exists in the world.
But it's not racist.
I'd refer you to some of the contemporary political theory on the subject but I'm afraid it's not at my fingertips yet.
Thanks for intervening. I don't however see how 30 million Yorubas who for 800 years had a state qualify to be a tribe apart from being African and thus by default "primitive".
As for the word tribe here is my comprehensive take on its use. A look at its etymology, particularly in sociology and anthropology informs me that it came into this application when scientific racism still existed, and does have a racist angle to it that flows from that era.
All this talk of tribes is very silly, fellow. It is true, the Yoruba had their own nation, and would probably have it still, were it not for the Congress of Berlin, which divided Africa into its current obscene boundaries. It is also true the Yorubas call the Ibos "sharp" and the Hausas call the Yorubas "sharp", you wish to gloss over Nigeria's endemic tribalism, or the role of the dominant tribes in the wholesale enslaving and selling of those slaves to the White Man. Do not pretend such racism does not exist, Do not try to bluff me, I am the one person on NewsVine who knows Nigeria and Niger, I've lived this and seen its lasting consequences.
Africans do not enjoy hearing the truth about themselves, it is my observation. Nobody does, really. Scientific racism, my ass, tribalism is racism, and Nigeria suffers horribly from it. Tens of thousands of Christians are now displaced from the northern states, especially from the Jos and Bauchi areas, their churches burned, their homes looted. It is a mask, for the Hausas are Muslims and wish to push out all the other kufr tribes. Play these little semantic games elsewhere, the Hausa word is k'iyayya, prejudice, the secret hatred. A little Hausa proverb for you: kafircin mage alwala ba/ salla, the cat who washes himself is not preparing for prayer.
I've had discussions with Oluseye on this very topic in the past, and it's a hot topic. But I'd like to jump in and ask you a question, Blaise. Are the Basque people a tribe? They are by your definition. How about the Norse, the Slavs, the Magyar, the Britons, the Angles, the Franks, Germanic *peoples* and all the others we now call "peoples" or "nations".
For the record I don't object to the word. But it's not being used on me. No one calls the white Europeans a tribe or a collection of tribes (but we are, in the end).
In that list above, the ones you would call tribes are the ones who were known to the Romans and post-Roman scholars as tribes. In other words the Magyar, Angles and Franks. I think this is the reason western scholarship liked to term African (for want of a better word) nations as tribes. And I think that's the implication Oluseye objects to. As I said, it doesn't bother me. I think there are things the west has lost which we might recover by understanding the word tribe. But I wonder if I would feel the same if I was being called tribal by people who thought of themselves [NB and oh how history has proved them wrong and continues to do so each day] as "advanced" and "civilized".
All this talk of tribes is very silly, fellow. It is true, the Yoruba had their own nation, and would probably have it still, were it not for the Congress of Berlin, which divided Africa into its current obscene boundaries. It is also true the Yorubas call the Ibos "sharp" and the Hausas call the Yorubas "sharp", you wish to gloss over Nigeria's endemic tribalism, or the role of the dominant tribes in the wholesale enslaving and selling of those slaves to the White Man. Do not pretend such racism does not exist, Do not try to bluff me, I am the one person on NewsVine who knows Nigeria and Niger, I've lived this and seen its lasting consequences.
Africans do not enjoy hearing the truth about themselves, it is my observation. Nobody does, really. Scientific racism, my ass, tribalism is racism, and Nigeria suffers horribly from it. Tens of thousands of Christians are now displaced from the northern states, especially from the Jos and Bauchi areas, their churches burned, their homes looted. It is a mask, for the Hausas are Muslims and wish to push out all the other kufr tribes. Play these little semantic games elsewhere, the Hausa word is k'iyayya, prejudice, the secret hatred. A little Hausa proverb for you: kafircin mage alwala ba/ salla, the cat who washes himself is not preparing for prayer.
You're now dipping into the zone of saying rubbish. I know the truth, read my column. I don,t deny Africa's problems. To paint ethnic struggle as tribal is ignorant. Because Christians are attacked (including Christian Hausas) by Hausas, that makes it a tribal struggle?
Why don't we try putting Germans, French, Italians and English into one artificially defined country and see if there wont be ethnic conflict. Ah wait, that was what happened in Yugoslavia. Ah wait, the Basques keep fighting in Spain. Wait wait, Northern Ireland anyone? Whyt don,t you call those conflicts tribal? It makes you feel good to associate the word with Africans?
The fact that you lived in Nigeria does not mean you know jack or understand the country. You evidently do not. You talk about the role of dominant tribes in selling people to Slave raiders. That's quite ignorant; What role of which dominant tribes? Tell me about it Mr Nigerian expert.
Pretending racism does not exist , more nonsense from you. By any definition of the word race, Yorubas, Ibos and Hausas are of the same race, including by genetics So please shine your expertise on this discussion, in identifying where the racism is.
Unfortunately, the one person that cn not be convinced is the one who thinks he knows. You can see but not observe, know but not understand. That is your case. The problem in Nigeria (related to religious violence) is a weak state that in enough cases fails to prevent breakdowns in law and order. The causes of the breakdowns themselves are a bunch of real historical issues, mixed with urban poverty and ignited by politicians and thug rulers for selfish end. Contrary to what you think, there is a serious religious conflict that has existed because the Hausa-Fulani have had a 200 year Jihad to convert the Kafr, but it has very little to ethnicity. Nigeria is unique in being a country half Christian and Half Muslim. There is a real there there. In fact Christians are aggressively also evangelising in the Muslim heartland of Northern Nigeria.
I alm not trying to deny anything, I am just pointing out your ignorance, an ignorance that comes from using a framework to analyse the situation that is not real.
Afterall, all traditional power structures in Nigeria are more or less gone, and the machinery of state is more powerful than anything. The Sultan of Sokoto has no power beyond his palace. The Alaafin of Oyo is left to hnoting but his serial adultery. The state is in control in Nigeria so "tribal" frames are meaningless.
For you to dismiss scientific racism is incredible. For a long time, the settled thinking of learned people in the West who used this word tribe was of Africans as inferior. It's why they called 30 million Yorubas who had a state for 800 years a tribe but called Luxembourg a nation. It's why they never used the word tribe to define the Basque, or the Friuliani, or the Alsatians, or even the Magyar. It has a real direct and exact base in racism which has persisted up until now and this was transmitted into social science.
I am dipping into /what/ ? It is to Nigeria's lasting shame that it did not rely on its organic power structures after independence, and aped the West in far too many aspects. Now it must undo all this baturi nonsense (I hope you recognize the Hausa word) and leveraged what Africa has to offer in terms of its own long traditions. I do not use the word "tribe" as if such entities were savages, Nigeria is now reduced to a savagery people of a century ago would never have understood or tolerated. Nigeria-the-nation used to have a national anthem while I was a boy, containing a curious line Though tribe and tongue may differ, in brotherhood we stand.. Would that it were true, but it is not, as we both very well know. Tribalism is racism, and it is the single worst aspect of Nigeria.
I have furthermore stated Nigeria is an awkward conflation of mutually hostile tribes, a lie to its core. Whether the Sultan of Sokoto has power, the Emir of Kano does. The Hausa and Fulani I know, the Yoruba less so, but the Yoruba do not suffer from being divided across national boundaries to the degree the Hausa do.
You will forgive me yet another Fela quote, for he saw Nigeria more clearly than anyone else, and spoke up where others were silent:
Abeg commot for my face oja re. That one is "Shakara" (1972). Real Shakara oloje. We wanted independence and we got it. We also fought apartheid shouting "Blacks Got To Be Free" (1980). But where is the freedom in Nigeria? Where is the multi-party system? What we have is a system of "Chop & Quench" (1972). Waki and die. We want to be like America. We listen to BBC because we want to be like oyinbo for Britain. So, all we are, is "B. B. C. (Big Blind Country)". For us, multiparty system is about "Going In and Coming Out" (1972), but only the same people over and over again. Obasanjo dey kampe. Saraki dey, Ekwueme dey, Enahoro dey, Shagari dey, Gowon dey, Balarabe Musa dey, Shonekan dey, Jim Nwobo dey too, all na the same people – all na jan jala dem be. That is why they do selection and called it election; the end result will be a "G. O. C. (Government of Crooks)".
We won't make any headway unfortunately. A lot of what you're saying is valid and true. You do have some data. The problem is the model with which you process the data. Talking about ethnocentrism in Nigeria, you're talking about something real. Ethnic identity in Nigeria is very strong since most people have identified with their ethnicity first and the artificial nation next. Just after independence, the country,s constitution actually tried to work in traditional political systems into the new one. There was a House of chieves similar to the British house of Lords. Unfortunately all that has broken down.
Listen Blaise, the tribal frame is meaningless because Nigeria is a state, and its politics and organisation has been that of a state.
I agree that ethnocentrism can be defined as a type of racism. I agree that ethnocentrism and ethnic discrimination is rife in Africa. What I do not find valid is the tribal frame for discussing that.
I also don't accept the denial that people's differences are real, and calling them tribal is a way to dismiss them. Take Iraq where people talk of tribalism in explaining what is happening there. Iraq's problems are not at the level of clans, it is at the level of central government. Iraq is a state. What insight do we get from talking about tribes or clans there?
I have a great deal more respect for the tribal model than the current barracks-centric modus now in place
... what, exactly, is your problem with the word "tribe" ? I have lived in Nigeria, and never heard anyone complain as you do about the word. I do not use it pejoratively, in point of fact, I believe the "tribal" model to be a rather good one, well-suited to Africa and its needs. The word in Hausa is dangi, and is used to distinguish among Hausa as well as external entities. It's also the word for a team, or one's relations: tuwon 'dan dangi ba/ ya/ cika ruwa He who has a dangi will never encounter too many difficulties, his dangi will help him.
While Africa labors under the colonial borders, I contend it will never, ever make headway. Those borders are the lasting legacy of the Europeans. Africa for the Africans, I say. It is disgraceful to see the country I love, Nigeria, fall into the hands of crooks and spoilers. The dangi works, and would serve as a fine replacement for this oyinbo European-aping pseudo-Africa.
Blaise you can't be more wrong to say dangi=tribe. Dangi means kin. One's kin is not one's "tribe".Just what is the tribal model? Maybe if you explained that to me it would help.
Listen Blaise, working out a system that welds the traditional into the system is very important. I agree. At independence, Sharia became wedded into the Penal Code, and Customary law still governs many things in Nigeria, chief of all family law.
But you have to either convincingly show what this tribal model is or realise the serious flaw of that view.
You and I disagree over the definition of "tribe", in any event. You might be thinking kabila, which I interpret as "race", but dangi is more than kin, it's also tribe. Good grief, you're now arguing with me about Hausa, and you're a Yoruba, I've spoken Hausa all my life.
I am the one person on NewsVine who knows Nigeria and Niger, I've lived this and seen its lasting consequences
I beg to disagree on that one. As a Nigerian living in Nigeria right now, I would think i should know a little more than you. The major problem i see with you guys is the fact you dont seem to be here, you are quoting news sources and some people are going as far back as the 60's to reference civil war. I dont think those are relevant today.
We have our internal difficulties.(yoruba/hausa/ibo) but they are by no means our biggest problem and we always sort that out when it comes time for olympics or world cup anyways.
This divide and Rule tactic has been around for eons. It's not really about the tribes/ethnicities/what have you, nor is it about the leaders, it's about the puppetmaster, and who is that??
Blaise, dangi means kin. In fact, in virtually no African language does the word "tribe" exist. Even though you still have not told me what a tribe is or what the tribal model is In Yoruba, all people are called "eniyan" or "ara" which means "people". E.g; Hausa people, Ibo people, Chinese people. No word for tribe. The Yoruba equivalent of dangi is ebi which means kin or extended family.
You might know Hausa words but without understanding the society and how it works you don't know jack. I am not sure that you know Hausa more than me and I would admit being limited in knowledge of the language.
You and I disagree over the definition of "tribe", in any event.
For the umpteenth time, what is your definition of tribe and how does it apply to Yorubas, Ibos or Hausas or Ijaws who number in millions and are by every definition possible nations, within the Nigerian nation.
Kai. Dangi does not mean near kin, it's a common mistake in non-Hausa speakers, it specifically excludes immediate family, such as parents or children. May I urge you to learn the language, move to Kano, where the clearest Hausa is spoken. Dangi, dango, dangantaka. Synonym kabila, but that's clearly Arabic.
From the root 'dan adan, the human being, but 'dan adan in the singular shouldn't be used unless you're angry at someone.
Kin can exclude immediate family. One's extended family goes across many generations, and are usually traced to one single ancestor; it is a loose assemblage of nuclear families. You can even call it a clan. In Hausaland there are 100s of 1000s of those. Is that what you call a "tribe"? If that were to be the case, doesn't that prove that Hausas as a whole are not a "tribe"?
You still have not told me what your tribal model is and what on God's earth is a "tribe".
Don's stop the aid. Stop giving it to institutions and beauracracies:
Huge bureaucracies are financed (with the aid money), corruption and complacency are promoted, Africans are taught to be beggars and not to be independent.
There are many small, entrepreneurial endeavors that are enabling the poor. Micro loans, vocational training - small farm/livestock, water preservation, etc...
The other side of the coin is the extreme poverty locations where people are dying quickly. The institutions have gotten in the way so groups like One.org are skirting them and getting practical help into peoples' hands.
@mbrennan - I agree. As well, stop dumping crap we don't want on Africa, e.g. unwanted frozen chicken parts dumped on Africa by Brazil, the US and the EU that undermine the local poultry industry. One source here
mbrennan, I often wonder why people in the West are so attached to aid. Have you ever seen a large street demonstration or riot of Africans asking for more aid? What you see are Africans rioting for better infrastructure, democracy, good governance.
Humanitarian aid is different from developmental aid. Humanitarian aid should never stop. Afterall even the US received that after Katrina. When disasters happen, the struck need help. The poor also need help and poverty is a disaster, but charity never cured poverty. Never happened.
What works is investment. The money being given as aid, how about investing it in African infrastructure? If the investment comes back you get a larger pool of funds to invest to fight poverty, if not, you were going to give it as aid anyway. No loss.
I think that's a great way to view it. Stop the aid, start the investment. Invest in microenterprise, economic and technological infrastructure. According to Bono that is occuring. He's preaching the era of investment and the end of aid.
Investment = accountability and competition that breeds excellence. It will also have plenty who lose out. Perhaps a research team that can bring opportunities to private equity and corporations. Starbucks has made some strides. I heard Pepsi is doing some major investment in India's food logistics infrastructure.
Contrast this to Somalia. With no central government to give aid to or get in the way, it's economy has been booming and growing much faster than compared with their neighbors.
And the reason for the violence? People who want a central government so they can rule, and the US has funded some of them because the US doesn't know how to deal with the near anarchistic society that has developed.
As even the CIA factbook admits:
"Despite the seeming anarchy, Somalia's service sector has managed to survive and grow. Telecommunication firms provide wireless services in most major cities and offer the lowest international call rates on the continent. In the absence of a formal banking sector, money exchange services have sprouted throughout the country, handling between $500 million and $1 billion in remittances annually. Mogadishu's main market offers a variety of goods from food to the newest electronic gadgets. Hotels continue to operate, and militias provide security."
Very interesting. Given the dominance of western style government, is it possible for a nation to develop in more organic/private terms? It's almost a move of isolation, but could be the way of the future given the rise of institutional costs and the decrease in institutional effectiveness. But my generation is just sitting back and "waiting on the world to change." John Mayer
Sure, it's possible to develop in a more organic form. The tribal entities become political parties, enter into power-sharing relationships with other political entities. Nelson Mandela has written a fair bit about how such things might be done.
See, it's the same problem in Iraq. A Sunni in Basra is a minority, a Shii in Ramadi is a minority.
If Africa reorganized into smaller, organic entities, with a sort of homeland and a diaspora throughout Africa, he would be represented by a (here I resort to a Hausa word) ba-fada delegate to a council. As all politics is local, he'd also need some sort of representation as a citizen of a particular town, by (yet another Hausa word) sarki, a local chief and complaint,k'ara resolver, who administers doka, the law as it is known in those parts, with his 'dan sanda constabulary arresting crooks, all the vide hakunci legal process would be kept local and reasonably fair. Africans are eminently reasonable people, they do understand justice and mercy. These stupid national entities actually hinder the process of African advancement.
Demand will be met. It's an amazing thing to watch a market work and develop without the "aid" and redundancy of government.
Blaise, didn't you spend time there?
Yeah, 12 years.
Spent time in Iraq or Africa?
I spent 18 months in Lebanon, was only in Iraq for a few weeks.
the aid never gets properly allocated. If it was, and if there were no corruption, africa would be disneyland 2.
I love what micro-finance has done for countries like Bangladesh, and other parts of Southeast/west Asia.
I can't wait to see the wonders of Micro-Finance in Africa, but unfortunately, the land is not as cultivable as it is in Asia.
The Aid would do wonders in Africa, if it was not for Arms Sale. It's kinda hard to work when we keep supplying AK-47s to various militias who continue to kill each other off.
"Please stop the aid?"
Well if my $30 check actually made it to the person I wanted him to have, that aid would do wonders. But if the money is stolen due to corruption, how the @!$%# do we do whether aid would work or not?
The situation is much more complex that this little seeded article.
Definitely an important issue - the interest in the discussion here seems to prove it. However, I would like to raise a point of order: To avoid confusion, it would have been nice to point out that the seeded interview is two years old. I always thought, Newsvine is about, well, kinda ... "news".
Shikwati: Why do we get these mountains of clothes? No one is freezing here. Instead, our tailors lose their livlihoods. They're in the same position as our farmers. No one in the low-wage world of Africa can be cost-efficient enough to keep pace with donated products. In 1997, 137,000 workers were employed in Nigeria's textile industry. By 2003, the figure had dropped to 57,000. The results are the same in all other areas where overwhelming helpfulness and fragile African markets collide.
Interesting observation. Economic theory pretty much demands that people who are selling something will have no customers if someone else is giving that same thing away, even if lower quality.
Why doesn't India have the same level of political and economic upheaval as Africa? They have been victims of the same amount of colonialism and "western oppression" and plundering of resources by not only two centuries of British rule, but the Persians, Alexander the Great, the Afghans, Arabs, Mongols ans the Turks.
The difference is slave trade. 14 Million Indians were not taken in 400 years, even if a lot went into forced labour. In any case, quite a lot of people are living in extreme poverty in India. 250 Million. India has done better by keeping a stable democracy; and there have been almost no CIA or MI5 sponsored coups in India. Yes, how about India not forced into the shenanigans of IMF structural adjustment in the 1980s; (which Africa is just recovering from).
South Asia is not doing much better than Africa, and by the way, did you compare the levels of FDI to each region in the last 40 years? Africa has received very little investment.
Racists have to know that it is very real that Africa has been degraded and pillaged and it's not even over yet. Find another comparison Craig this one does not work.
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