Obama draws fire for 'lipstick on a pig' remark

Your weak attempt to hide your filthy language has no place in an intelligent debate. Your comment should be deleted.

You're right....McCain should keep his mouth shut and stop complaining. If he can't stand the heat he should get out of the race. McCain's got some nerve criticizing Obama after what he's said during this lousy political contest.

McCain, you're too old.....way past retirement.

McCain is being ridiculous and not worth the time of day. A desperate man will say and do anything to win. If voters can't see that his dirty underhanded tactics will carry over to the White House if he gets there, they need to wise up and open their eyes.

Obama shouldn't even bother with the incendiary comments from McCain. To use his running mate as fodder for his campaign and her allowing him to use her like that is shameful and very distasteful to me as a woman.

What a filthy mouth you have. Those who cannot debate and use dialectics resort to the use of filth to try to prove their points. I am ashamed of you and you should be ashamed of yourself.

The great Obama collapse has started. He made his muslim faith comment now the lipstick comment. Many have reported on the lack of energy at the DNC, and how Obama appears defeated. Obama is to weak to be president and it is showing. The only history Obama will be making is in a book on how to lose an election.

I agree and it almost fits this little ditty of a story. Where does it say that "Lipstick" is only to be used by republicans. The phrase you can put lipstick on a pig but it is still a pig goes back to my childhood. and I am way over 60,

"You can put lipstick on a pig," he said to an outbreak of laughter, shouts and raucous applause from his audience, clearly drawing a connection to Palin's joke. "It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

That is clear and I do not remeber her ever saying anything about a Fish....

Why should he apologize to her?

McCain is delusional.

Palin's "joke" has been used by her on many occasions in her speeches in Alaska so it is not original at all

How was the comment on pulp fiction filthy? Gimme a break

I forgot about that scene in Pulp Fiction. Fits! Anyway I guess the shine's off the beauty queen. She has to start facing the interviews now. Now this is going to get good. With any luck, the gristmill will keep her down with one thing after another like happened to Obama and it'll all be over but the crying.
Funny thing is, McCain has been able to take the low road and Obama has pretty much always taken the high road. He has always cut his opponent slack with she's a good mother, he's certainly did a good job for his country etc. Now the gloves are off. "We" have taken and taken and although Obama may be kind but nobody else has to. Gotta get out and get those voters registered. In my small, very small rebulican town, My Obama sticher on my car has made quite a stir. Small town minds. Screw around during the week and hit the church on Sunday. That's how McCain is.

Barack knew that he was slurring the lipstick candidate and WE know who she is. And, now that he got caught with his foot in his sexist mouth he wants to pretend that he was just speaking like an old farmer.

He is going from sexist to sexist/elitist that thinks we are all dumb enough to believe anything he wants to say.

More of the same that Hillary got for 18 months. Enuf Already!

Of course we all know that the image of a snarling pit bull is much lovelier than that of a dirty pig in a sty. This ridiculous story reminds me of a scene in "Pulp Fiction" where Samuel L. Jackson character explaining the virtues of a feces-eating dog as opposed to a pig. I guess Palin deserves respect because she is a dog with a "charming" personality.

Jules Winnfield:
Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.
Vincent Vega:
Yeah but bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good.
Jules Winnfield:
Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy mother-fu**ers. Pigs sleep and root in sh**. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eating nothing that ain't got sense enough to disregard his own feces.
Vincent Vega:
How 'bout a dog? Dog eats his own feces.
Jules Winnfield:
I don't eat dog either.
Vincent Vega:
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
Jules Winnfield:
I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy, but they definitely dirty. But, dog's got personality; personality goes a long way.
Vincent Vega:
Ahh, so by that rational, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?
Jules Winnfield:
Well, we'd have to be talking one charming mother-fu**ing pig.

This is one of my favorite scenes from one of my all time favorite movies.

But she's not charming, she's dangerously calculated and thinks all women are as closed-minded as she is.

Actually, I like the comparison between Palin and a sows ear... i.e. you cant make a sows ear into a silk purse...

I find it interesting the "selective recall" used by Republicans. They want to disregard Barack Obama saying that he has limited political experience but applaud Sarah Palin, who has even less. (How much foreign policy experience did our current President have before he was elected.) While being a Governor is admirable the Governor of Alaska is a big fish in a small (population and budget wise) pond. I guarantee you that before she was announced as the nominee, there were less than 1000 people outside of Alaska who even knew her nameand now she is being seen as some sort of savior. This sort of hypocrisy is common in conservatives. When Jamie Lynn Spears announced her pregnancy she was widely criticized but when Governor Palin's daughter did the same, and because she claims she will marry the father someday, she was praised as brave. Hypocrites, again, which I guess is the true definition of a conservative. The only reason they announced the pregnancy in the first place was because she was exposed even though she tried use her sibling to hide her bulging stomach during the press conference. When Senator Obama is elected, he will serve and uplift the entire country, not just any one segment of it (Re.. rich and white). Conservatives are only concerned about themselves and attempt to discredit anything that doesn't fit into their agenda. Republicans also want to discredit Senator Obama by attempting to claiming he has a negative attitude towards minorities. Just because he embraces both sides of his culture does't mean he is disregarding either. He showed his intelligence by not condescending to their level because the minute he even responded to those baseless allegations, some fear-mongering conservative would have attempted to paint him as a militant. He was criticized for stating that men should take care of their children. How can anyone have a problem with that? I agree that men, all men, should take care of their children. Senator Obama wants men to step up and be fathers. He wants them to provide for their children, protect their children so that one day they may serve this country by becoming proficient in their profession. I don't know about you but that is enough "pro" for me. One last thing. How is it that during the RNC, neither the President or Vice-President showed up. That is because they know an appearance by either would link McCain to them and, given their performance, even Republicans don't want that. The best thing the President ever did for this country was to ensure that a Democrat will be elected in November. That is why the Republicans are trotting out two sacrificial lambs in this election and saving their real candidates for 2012.

I have just one question for both Democrats and Republicans. Do you WANT a civil war? Becuase thats what your getting. Aguing over a problem instead of fixing it. Calling another mans ideas bad ones becuase of his political party. US Democrats all for change and unity. US Republicans all for change and unity. None of them practice what they preach. I see no unity. Not even true debates, just attacks.Why should we accept the choice of only these two?

From tht great movie braveheart(and this is aimed at all those citizens who are politically biased) "your so busy fighting over the scraps from longshanks table, that you've missed your god given right to something better"

Make no mistake. Its all about the power. They rule us when we should rule them. Only through a type of unity that niether candidate can bring will change that.

Check out the website "mudflats" -

"Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics"

Lots of great photos and funny articles - all relevant to a certain lipstick-wearing dog

Roy I agree there is no place for obscene language but this debate is hardly intellegent, its a left, and only left there is no room for actual debate because its all one sided.

Braveheart...

I don't want to see it happen, but I am not afraid of it either. We are just a few riots away from playing shiites and sunnis... Fortunately, some of us are prepared for such...

TO ROY WILSON-336103 and others who find my comment "filthy",

Wow, some people are offended by anything!

And this lipstick "controversy" has nothing "intelligent" in it or deserves any "intelligent" debate.
I was merely commenting on the amusing parallel between this fake controversy and a scene from a movie. I bet u work for McCain campaign.

read between the lines bro.

Eileen, Since when has ignorance, vulgarity and name calling been the exclusive purview of a single political persuasion? From the sampling here it can be undeniably established that political affiliation is not a boundary to this type of pithy behavior.

I am sincerely convinced that you were offended by what others have said, but you undid your entire argument with the baby butcher/anti-Christ remark.

Also, I could not find a simile in your entire post, let alone contiguous to that silly remark, please clarify. Are you referencing a different post?

That's right RACO

That's why impeachment proceedings were initiated against Clinton. These people would probably not say a word if I were talking about Obama and said you can paint over the strip on a skunk!!!

Too many comments on this thread directed at other posters.

Code of Honor #1... refrain from personal attacks.

RACO, Dont kid yourself. The white house has held adulterers from day one. Dems and repubs. Dont forget Federalists. Even some very highly touted Dems. Need I say more.

And plenty of bastards in there too.

I think that people are losing focus of what's important. All the racist remarks just go to show that Mr. Davis was correct in his statement that this is a election of character and not issues. That's the most pathetic thing to say, but from the comments above I see it's true. I can't say anything about McCain/Palin because they haven't said anything worth while. I think that it's shameful that the American people are letting them (McCain/Palin) take the focus off of the real issues. The media is also playing a big role in this by placing so much focus on things that are not important. As a women I am deeply disturbed by the whole notion that women deserve different treatment than men when we step into a male dominated profession. If you put on the shoulder pads and step onto the field be prepared to get tackled like the rest of the boys. The issues are clear America is economically shot, we are still at war, people don't have medical insurance, unemployment is at an all time high, and we have no solutions from the Republican party that placed us in this situation in the first place. Americans we have been tricked with these same tactics throughout the Bush administration and now from the "REFORM" TICKET OF McCain/Palin ticket we are being slapped again with more trash talk and no solutions. I pray that on November 4th all that needs to be seen is seen and people place an informed vote for the right ticket, whether it's Republican or Democratic be informed about the choice you make.
"Obama '08'"

It was Mrs. Palin that first referred to herself as a pitbull with lipstick, and the difference between a dog and a pig is.....................? Considering that they are both animals, I see no difference, except that pigs are more intelligent.

Eileen watch what you say about OBama being the possible anti-christ. It could very well be said that Sarah Palin is also referred to in the bible in Revelations chapter 17, The Woman on the Scarlet Beast. I think you open a can of worms that you really don't wish to be opened with that statement.

Of course we all know that the image of a snarling pit bull is much lovelier than that of a dirty pig in a sty. This ridiculous story reminds me of a scene in "Pulp Fiction" where Samuel L. Jackson character explaining the virtues of a feces-eating dog as opposed to a pig. I guess Palin deserves respect because she is a dog with a "charming" personality.

Jules Winnfield:
Pigs are filthy animals. I don't eat filthy animals.
Vincent Vega:
Yeah but bacon tastes good. Pork chops taste good.
Jules Winnfield:
Hey, sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie, but I'd never know 'cause I wouldn't eat the filthy mother-fu**ers. Pigs sleep and root in sh**. That's a filthy animal. I ain't eating nothing that ain't got sense enough to disregard his own feces.
Vincent Vega:
How 'bout a dog? Dog eats his own feces.
Jules Winnfield:
I don't eat dog either.
Vincent Vega:
Yeah, but do you consider a dog to be a filthy animal?
Jules Winnfield:
I wouldn't go so far as to call a dog filthy, but they definitely dirty. But, dog's got personality; personality goes a long way.
Vincent Vega:
Ahh, so by that rational, if a pig had a better personality, he would cease to be a filthy animal. Is that true?
Jules Winnfield:
Well, we'd have to be talking one charming mother-fu**ing pig.

I agree with your comment. I am not surprised that the MC Cain camp pounced at the opportunity to call the comment of Barack Obama sexest knowing full well they were not.

That was a blatant attempt to enraged the women of his party to themselves come out and attack the Senator.

In my church, if you are a leader holding any type of office or even a member and you are pregnant out of wedlock or have committed adultery and it is openly known.

The church will discipline you for a period of time, and your office will be taken until such a time when the disciplined party show repentance at which time the church will nurture that person back into the fellowship.

The Republican party is now saying to the world that if you are a Republican and you sin openly it's OK we will forgive you because you are one of ours and you can keep us in power, so we will protect you from the rest of the world.

This kind of winking at our own and literally crushing others under such a heavy load of UN-ending TV scrutiny at nausea all while parading your scandal ridden Vice Presidential pick as untouchable is totally amazing.

And the way they get away with it is we the people are paralyzed with fear. We need to do something and do it now.

If the Republicans seizes the opportunity to monopolize political power, we will very soon be experiencing RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION. People please listen to what the religious right is discussing in their churches.

Others who are not like them has always caught the brunt of their intolerance.
We have a lot of work to do. Be pro-active and don't be scared to stand up to change.

Do we really want to talk like this? This is getting high school talk and I am ashamed that we have stepped so low as to do this.

Sham on you for your judgement lets put you and your family on display and see what comes up.

I have a funny felling you would not far so well either. This election is about how will run the USA not about who can insult the other.

Is this the best we can do? God I hope not. Shame on you and Obama for that. Let us all grow up please. OUR COUNTRY IS AT STAKE SO MAYBE WE CAN ALL ACT LIKE ADULTS This is teaching our children well"we can just be childish and call name and that will fix all the problem we have in this country.

GROW UP AND LETS TALK ABOUT HOW WE FIX THIS COUNTRY NO NAME CALLING AND YES OBAMA SHOULD TELL THEM HE IS SORRY HE IS A FATHER AND HE ACT LIKE THIS SHAM ON HIM.

The bottom line is.. the comment was NOT about Palin. It was about the Gop's laughable attempt to portray themselves as agents of change! End of discussion! McCain's camp however, is constantly playing the gender card, and accusing Obama's camp of playing the race card on several occasions. They need to grow up... it's so sad that they can't win on the issues, so they're playing every card in the deck to take people's mind off the real issues. Pathetic.

Exactly~

I'm with you RACO....I'm a Republican turned Democrat (2 weeks ago). I got fed up with my former party's use again of the same old fear and hate rhetoric. The same old tactics the Republicans have used to fool America with for all of my 55+ years. But unfortunately these tactics have always worked for the Republicans, so they'll never change. That's why I've left them and moved to the Democrats. The Republicans know how to work the "fear factor" to the hilt. I know, because I was one. So sad for America....so, so sad.

If voters would just put their fears aside for a minute (as I and many others have done) and think of which candidate would be better able to communicate to the world that we only want to PROTECT our nation (not "take over the world" like the Republicans are communicating with their constant talk of wars) we might just win the worlds respect back that the Republican party leaders have lost for America.

And for once vote for a Presidential candidate like Mr. Obama that understands that our nation needs someone to guide us back to financial stability by not letting the wealthiest 2% of Americans control everything that does or doesn't happen in it. Not like Mr. McCain that thinks our nation is doing "fine" under a wealth controlled system. And until he started running for President, didn't even think economics was important enough to know anything about or try to understand.

America....our nation is in deep trouble. And your again falling for the same old lines of fear and distrust that have been the Republican montra for years. Sad....so, so sad.

I am sorry but what in the world makes you think he should apologize ? Is he suppost to go thru this whole campaign saying he is sorry , if that is the case then he will be saying that everytime he opens his mouth . But that certainly isn't the rules which his adversaries play by . It really is interesting how there rules change .

It is hypocritical from the McCain campaign to be offended when McCain used to same term back in May in a speech to discribe Hillary Clinton Health care program.

I applaud you. Amazing how much spin the GOP is putting out and the hypocrisy of them all. Everybody else is called ugly names when they are unwed and pregnant, but not them. The deceit is amazing as well as the stupidity. I support Obama in his remarks and was wondering when the gloves would come off. Palin cannot have it easier than anyone else because she is a woman. If you are going to play with the boys you gotta be able to take what the boys dish out. What now, she's going to run off crying? When Biden gets a hold of her and she has to speak without a script, we'll see how smart and tough she is.

Allow me to add one other interpretation to the lipstick-on-pig issue. Now one has first to appreciate that Obama has a very high intellectual power and has a good command of the English language. In making his remark facing McCain who is running for president (not SP by the way) Obama is saying that McCain has used the gender card "lipstick" on himself "the pig". Is quite obvious to me that "the pig" has been using "lipstick" to fool the gullable to improve his rating. The Media of course likes to pick up stuff below the belt.

The only way round the gender issue since woman's right allow the continued use of cosmetics and skirts of the male chauvenist era is for Joe Biden to wear lipstick and skirt (the kilt maybe) at the coming debate with Sarah Palin

In my native South we have a phrase: "That's just dressing up the pig before putting him back in the slop." It is a much more accurate description of the McCain/Palin campaign than any reference to lipstick. McCain and Palin are "dressing themselves up" as agents of change and some sort of of wew culture in Washington. But, if they are elected, it will be GOP business as usual. Tax breaks for the wealthy and big business, settle every dispute with a war and tell the average hard-working American to "get lost." Oh, and did I mention that McCain--who doesn't have to worry about his retirement--wants to privatize Social Security. That means gambling our retirement on the stock market, junk bonds and mortgage pool investments (do Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ring a bell?).

If McCain and Palin are elected, they'll be right back in the GOP "slop" as soon as they hit Washington.

I loved the comment. Obama should use it more often. Palin started the lipstick thing. If she can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

I am beside myself with what i am hearing and reading, First what is the matter with some of you talking like this, before you go taking about Sarah palin and her family you better do a history check, because the last time i looked it was only eight years ago we had an Adulterer in the white house As far as Sarah palin's daughter how can you call her unborn child that, then ask God to save and bless Amercia, no this is not right , if one belvies in God then you would know that God love us all and he loves all the children, that no child is a mistake and if you are human then you know that no child is a bastard . I have had a chance of a life time seeing my grandchild at tens weeks old i now know that it is alive and a baby. they have a new one that takes pictures around fifteen weeks or so and it's just so beautiful and there is a real baby there ,all i can say is for though"s that are pro choice is please have this done before you make up your mind because it is alive way before you know it , as far as Republicans monopolizlitical power so there can be religious persecution shows just how much intolerance there is for the freedom of religion and to belive as we choose. Obama was out of line with the pig remark and i am glad i have left the dem party because i am ashamed that i ever was one, and Sarah Palin and her family have more family values then most of us

I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. McCAIN CAN BASH EVERYONE AND ANYONE HE WANT'S BUT IF YOU RETALIATE, HE CRYS LIKE A BABY.

-You can take a Muslim and surround him with Christians,mask his true beliefs,make him look like the friend when he is in fact the enemy,You can lie about your religion and call that change,You can call him what you will but a Muslim is still a Muslim and has no place deciding whats best for the people of this great country.In short put the lipstick on the pitbull,the pig,put that lipstick on anything you want but Dont put that lipstick on that purple lipped Muslim and put him in the White House!!!!

Dixie, are you kidding me? No, I think you're quite serious...

First and foremost, you need to do your homework. Obama is not a Muslim dear; he's a Christian man. That was a supposed mistake made by the media and they apologized for this. The media is trying to find any way possible to sway the thoughts of the American public with fear. This usually works with individuals that are too lazy to do there own research... These reporters are mostly republicans (its obvious...) and want to see a republican man back in the White House.

This country was built on Christian principles so why would a Muslim be brave enough to try and run a majority Christian society???

This is not the way the Christian community is suppose speak towards another!!! Your ignorance is sickening. Before you go insulting someones religion, or way of life, do-your-homework...

Eileen, I do not know who you are referring to as a Baby Butcher..and definitely do not know who you are referring to as an Anti-Christ.
Pro-Choice is not a Baby Butcher. I do not want anyone telling me that I have to have a Baby even though I was Raped or it was a result of Incest is not the answer. You and no one else will have to suffer through the ordeal. If I have an abortion, it is Between God and I. When I go be Judged by God, I am the only one that has to Answer for All of my deeds, good and bad. You and no one else will be able to do that. So people need to stop playing God. You do not know "Why" God allow things to happen to people that is why God and Jesus said "Judge Ye Not, that Ye be not Judge".
An African American President in the White is not an Anti-Christ. Apparently you have not been reading your Bible or you would have known this key fact... Just because you are Black does not mean you are Evil. Also, the Anti-Christ will come from the East. The USA is not the "East"....Blow the dust off of your bible, read it, do some research and you will be more enlightened.

I agree with you CYB. I too have converted to the Democratic side for these very reasons. I also know many more who have, but are not letting it be known. There are many white male and female voters here in Alabama who will secretly vote for Obama/Biden in November. Why in secret? I'll give an example. Early in the primaries, my cousin, a white female, was in the final stages of securing a big promotion. Everything was basically finalized until, through the grapevine, her superiors discovered she had donated a small amount of money to the Obama campaign. The result? A last minute change in job description for the position she wanted. She was disqualified. There was also a simultaneous negative change concerning her treatment. My point is this, in many parts of this country, it isn't feasible to openly support certain candidates. It's best to keep your mouth closed or to even appear to support the Republicans. However, come November, many will be voting democratic. Is Alabama in play for the dems? No, but in certain swing states IMHO it could mean a hidden 5% for Obama/Biden.

America! From a former Republican kool-aid drinker. Stop drinking the poison and throw away the glass. You are being used by the ELITE of the Republican party for their own self promotion. Karl Rove doesn't care about you!! Slimey salepersons always leave the buyer waking the next day with a huge hangover of BUYER'S REMORSE. Don't buy based on "culture war" emotion. Logical decisions always produce better results.

OBAMA/BIDEN!

Flame away my Republican brothers!!!!!

What is wrong with some of you? Barack Obama in no way called Sarah Palin a pig. Some of you really need to stop the ridiculous behavior and scrutiny. We all need to be focused on the issues and the ability of these candidates to lead this country out of this horrible mess that we're in. I personally don't care about the labels that some people have decided to place upon themselves - it doesn't change anything. Wake up people! If this foolishness continues, we will all fall for the "banana in the tail pipe" again and as a result this country and we will be worse off in the next 4 years than we are now. We all need to think about this upcoming election rationally and intelligently without all of the rage and warm fuzzy feelings. So what that Barack Obama is black, so what that Sarah Palin is a woman, so what that John McCain is a former POW and so what that Joe Biden is a loyal father and husband - WHO CAN MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE IN WASHINGTON that will help me, my family, you, your family and the rest of the aspects of this country. AGAIN, WAKE UP PEOPLE!

A person run for the President of the Unites state of America should not be calling anyone a pig. The End!

What is wrong with some of you? Barack Obama in no way called Sarah Palin a pig. Some of you really need to stop the ridiculous behavior and scrutiny. We all need to be focused on the issues and the ability of these candidates to lead this country out of this horrible mess that we're in. I personally don't care about the labels that some people have decided to place upon themselves - it doesn't change anything. Wake up people! If this foolishness continues, we will all fall for the "banana in the tail pipe" again and as a result this country and we will be worse off in the next 4 years than we are now. We all need to think about this upcoming election rationally and intelligently without all of the rage and warm fuzzy feelings. So what that Barack Obama is black, so what that Sarah Palin is a woman, so what that John McCain is a former POW and so what that Joe Biden is a loyal father and husband - WHO CAN MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE IN WASHINGTON that will help me, my family, you, your family and the rest of the aspects of this country. AGAIN, WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Now its Animal Farm.

Let Palin face all networks and news agencies in a PRESS CONFERENCE !!!! If she wants to get the 2nd most powerful office of the country, then by golly, she should let her position on all issues be known and not hide behind that lipstick ! Then we will know what kind of political animal she is ! Otherwise, we will assume she is totally unprepared to face the nation without a teleprompter and a script !

WE WANT A PRESS CONFERENCE WITH LOCAL AND FOREIGN NEWS AGENCIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whats the big fear ?????? If you are smart, the public would know you have an IQ bigger than a flea !!!
Then perhaps she belongs to that animal called homo sapiens.

If Cheney faces the press when he travels abroad, let her face the press too ! Now ! We´re not going to spend the next 8 years correcting English grammar and Internets, like Bush did ! Neither shall we be ashamed when our leaders refer to Czechoslovakia which no longer exists, just like McCain did !

Again McCain got some nerve asking for an apology. Even though Barack DID NOT call her a pig with lipstick, I feel that it would have been okay to call her just that considering all the personal attack that Palin and McCain has put on him since the beginning. I say Obama should spit on a piece of paper and mail that to McCain as his apology.

Anyone who claims that this is a shot at Palin and that they're "outraged" is lying out their backside and is as big of a phony as McCain's claim to be for change.

What is wrong with some of you? Barack Obama in no way called Sarah Palin a pig. Some of you really need to stop the ridiculous behavior and scrutiny. We all need to be focused on the issues and the ability of these candidates to lead this country out of this horrible mess that we're in. I personally don't care about the labels that some people have decided to place upon themselves - it doesn't change anything. Wake up people! If this foolishness continues, we will all fall for the "banana in the tail pipe" again and as a result this country and we will be worse off in the next 4 years than we are now. We all need to think about this upcoming election rationally and intelligently without all of the rage and warm fuzzy feelings. So what that Barack Obama is black, so what that Sarah Palin is a woman, so what that John McCain is a former POW and so what that Joe Biden is a loyal father and husband - WHO CAN MAKE A REAL DIFFERENCE IN WASHINGTON that will help me, my family, you, your family and the rest of the aspects of this country. AGAIN, WAKE UP PEOPLE!

Oh my, offensive...... as if they didnt hit Michelle Obama for that pride for country statement.

What hypocrisy !

Just another diversionary tactic of the McCain Palin camp. Shame on the media for spending a day of air time on this nonsense. The comment is an old expression, which has been used in the past by McCain and IS NOT offensive whatsoever if you listen to the entire context of Obama's comments.

This does not require an apology. Instead, what we should demand is more policy from the McCain Palin campaign and less of the trivial baloney. Quit shielding Palin and let the media after her so they can call her on her multitude of lies.

We're not buying it McCain.

With an elite, communist quoting separatist?

I know that Obama was referring to McCain's policies when he used the old cliche "putting lipstick on a pig", but it is kind of ironic that Sarah Palin is a pig that wears lipstick. Am I wrong?

The desperate one here is Obama...Dems are in Panic! would be a clincher if he had Hillary on the ticket...but no Mr. Gutless wonder now is rambling and loosing focus and hoping Hillary who is a true blue make his case for him...after he insulted her, put her down, sent his buddies and serrogates to bring her down..now he depends on her help...Shame on you Obama! You said it ..you meant it-Shame on you!!!
All I can say to the Delegates... You ignored 18million People....Big Mistake, Huge Mistake-Huge!

That McCain campaign is just so ridiculous everytime anybody says or writes anything they either pull out the old POW - SEXIST - OLD MAN card. I would really like to see them begin to discuss issues instead of continually muddying the waters in the hopes that no one will notice their lack of a platform.

Good Citizens of America...

Let us remember, those daring words, of this GREAT republican man, running for the presidential office; McCain...

"WHY IS CHELSEA CLINTON SO UGLY? BECAUSE HER FATHER IS JANET RENO"

Need I say more.

The problem is Obama is losing ground FAST and he has nothing worthwhile to say but to lash out at Sarah Palin. He has shown over and over again his inability to speak without a teleprompter, he's admitted he is Muslim all the while claiming to be christian, He's proven his poor judgement by his associations, and he'snot in this race to improve policy he's in this race to keep the leaches coming back for more.
Government is not responsible for peoples personal situations, I guess Obama "just doesn't get it !"

I suspect that the lead will change another 20 times before it's all said and done. Much more mud to come.

What an obvious liar! Oh yeah, me too, I was a Dem and now I am voting for McCain!!

Reply to inspectorgaget

You ask "what's the diff"? The "diff" is that McCain DIDN'T say it, but Obama DID. Obama continues to hurt himself by his unwillingness to admit a mistake.

You can twist the statement all you want. Obama was talking about McCain/Palin's policies and the fact he is running on CHANGE (which within his policies there is none). McCain said the exact same comparison about Hillary Clinton's Health Care Plan. But, if you are that quick to twist the statement Obama has hit a nerve. Republican's can only attack, because they have no issues or policies to stand on.
When you will not let the media interview a VP candidate, it really should tell you something. Either they are scared of what she will say, or McCain is such a a male chauvinist that he doesn't think a woman can speak for herself. Either way it is scary. Looks like a dirty old man that needs a trophy woman by his side.

Reading the posts on here are confirming everything I said above. The Republicans are doing it again. They've gotten all of America's focus off of the problems with they're Republican party nominee and turned your focus to discussing a non-issue. Something they are so very, very good at. They know Mr. McCain is a problem for their party so they need our focus to be on someone else (Palin) or something else (Obama said this, Obama said that.) They sure know how to fool the American public and make themselves look like the righteous ones. Anyone notice that Mr. McCain isn't campaigning anywhere anymore without Mrs. Palin with him. Again, the Republicans want you to focus on her and not on him. Focus on him and you see the truth about the Republican nominee and they don't want you to do that.

Unity , good try, she's scheduled to do an interview this week...and you must admit the lady had not even been in the race a whole week before the media went on a frenzy about her family. Believe me when she gets out there she'll knock the wind out of Obama, oh wait, she's already knocking the wind out of him.

Some of these comments remind me of an old saying "Don't wrestle with a pig in the mud, the pig actually enjoys it". Don't you realize that these insulting partisan comments do nothing but discourage turnout, and guess who that helps - the Republicans.

It was apparent to the crowd that there was reference to Palin (listen to them right after the comment) it was apparent to anyone that saw the whole video it was a refer3ence to Palin (especially since he follows the comment in short order talking about her five kids and such) the only way it is not apparent is when you take it out of the context used, and instead use context of other times this was used prior to the lipstick on a pit bull becoming a big political boost for Palin.

Go ahead and claim that some how Obama did not know how this would be perceived, pretend he did not know how the crowd interpreted the comment when it was said, act like this was a right winged conspiracy to make it so it looks like an attack against women in general instead of against Palin herself. You do what you want to do. But if you are honest with yourself, do not worry about being honest with the American people they all can see for themselves) just be honest with yourself, when you first heard the words, where did your mind go? And if yours went there, and the crowd in attendance went there, do you honestly think that Obama is so dense that his mind did not go there? Just how stupid do you want to make him out to be?

Now that he has denied that he went trhere... how honest do you want to try to claim he has been with you?

Just food for thought that is all....

You liberal sheep crack me up. Obama is a hack...a liberal hack. He stooped low enough to call an opponent a pig...he knew it when he said it, he meant it when he said it...he knew exactly what he was doing. He thinks (and so do you doofus libs) that he is fancy and clever but he in fact is not. He is a low life that does not deserve to step foot in the oval office.
Altough I would never vote for a socialist like Obumble, I had in fact planned to vote against McCain, Libertarian or write in. That has now all changed. The classless personal attacks by Obumble and Biden, the sexist attacks on a candidate by the Obumble campaign and the press, the senseless attacks on a 17 year old girl and a 4 month old special needs kid by likes of the Obama Campaign, Oberman and Matthews makes me sick. I want them no where near the leadership of this country. 4 more years of Bush would be better than the prospect of this hate filled administration supported by the scummy likes of Keith Oberman, Tim Matthews, MSNBC et al.
There is now a grass roots organization planning to organize a Boycott MSNBC and its sponsers. I'll post the website and information once I verify they are not partisan as they claim. Regardless....I will boycott MSNBC and NBC and any sponsers and would encourage all who believe in fair play and have some dignity do the same.
This is simply outrageous and unacceptable behavior by a man who want to "lead" this great nation.

DID YOU KNOW THAT BARACK OBAMA'S CORE VALUES AND BELIEFS ARE BASED ON BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY?

I can guarantee you Obama Inc. surely isn't marketing this aspect of Barack's life!

As you all know. Barack's biological father, a socialist muslim from whom Barack got his name? Abandoned young Barack. This, obviously, was a scarring incident. And throughout young Barack's youth he was always in search of a father-figure to fill the void. And it was twenty one years ago when Barack did indeed find that father figure - the most influential and pivotal man in young Barack's life - Black Liberation Theologist Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

Has Obama Inc. told you about this man? I don't think so. This is stuff they desperately don't want you to know.

Black Liberation Theologist Jeremiah Wright would become, for twenty years, young Barack's mentor, inspiration, father, and inspiration for Barack's political career. The Junior Senator has written a lot about Wright in his memoirs and it's a public record.

If you don't know what Black Liberation Theology is? And if you don't know who Jeremiah Wright is? This will give you a taste. The video was produced by Jeremiah Wright himself and was on sale at Trinity United Church of Christ. Because of the election? I don't think they're selling these DVDs any more. Obama Inc. is a little smarter than that. Yes. Black Liberation Theology is predicated on the fact that Jesus Christ was a black man struggling against white oppression, as well as other outlandish, very often militant, views:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36T1fnIafC0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbUBTlmAiA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BWWx4Q1VFg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbUBTlmAiA&feature=related

The Junior Senator? Has denied knowledge of any such sermons. Despite being a Jeremiah Wright disciple for twenty-odd years. Despite being married at Trinity United. Despite having his kids baptized there. Despite going to church there. Despite the fact that Trinity United is Barack Hussein's primary church. Despite the fact that DVD's of these sermons can be purchased at Trinity United. Despite the fact that the whole point of Trinity United Church of Christ's whole point is to spread Black Liberation Theology and that's why you'd go there. Despite going to Church there for twenty years. And? Despite being close friends with Jeremiah Wright for twenty years. Barack Obama had absolutly no knowledge executiveof the nature of the church he went to for twenty years nor any knowledge of the true nature of his twenty-year adopted father, Black Liberation Theologist Jeremiah Wright.

The bottom line? The Junior Senator is either lying. Or that Harvard education didn't count for much!

Hannity and Colmes Debate about Barack Hussein's relationship with Black Liberation Theologist Jeremiah Wright and Supreme Minister of the Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan. It gets heated!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FUnBi1i90E&feature=related

Hannity Interviewing Black Liberation Theologist Jeremiah Wright:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNTGRL0OJWQ&feature=related

Louis Farrakhan's endorsement of Barack Hussein Obama and general diatribe about Obama and the election:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7QUftErt_M&feature=related

Pretty scary if you ask me!

Another thing Obama Inc. would like to hide is Barack's relationship with Louis Farrakhan.

Point is?

Barack Obama is no JFK.

He's more of a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. Only Barack is skinny. Sharp. And does exactly what his campaign advisors tell him to re-invent and create an image that may just get him elected. The Barack Hussein Obama underneath it all? Is an entirely different person. Obama and his family are being white-washed to look white (sorry but that's true) and to have NO past really. No record! Have you noticed that? This man has no beliefs. No background. No record.

All we hear is CHANGE. HOPE. And? I WILL SAVE OUR WORLD! LOL! Spare us!

OMG Eileen - you're scary. Seriously. The anti-christ? A baby-butcherer... How do you even figure that!

The lipstick on a pig is a known 'saying'. Not lipstick on a monkey - but I wouldn't be offended anyway. What he was saying is just like the saying - a rose by any other name would still smell as sweet - but opposite.

I wish someone would just put me in a drug induced coma until November 1...

Me and a thousand of my friends were voting for Obama until the lipstick remark, now we're going with McCain. Misogyny can't be a good leadership trait.

I love the sanctimonious Lefties who excoriate McCain for adultery while supporting Bill Clinton who committed perjury about his philandering as President! Let's remove the leftover lipstick on the Lefty Pigs!

BTW... MSNBC parroting, cliche` spewing doofus liberal sheep. McCain's reference to "Lipstick on a Pig" was referring directly to Hillary's stupid health care plan and not Hillary herself.
I thought that as people are so much more intelligent, superior and enlightened than the rest of us, that grasping the obvious wouldn't be so bloody difficult.

You can serve watermellon and fried chcken on a gold platter.....it is still watermellon and chicken. Oh, this is just regarding food...it should not be analogized with any person or race. Col. Sanders was white anyway.

Yea, and Obama's lipstick comment wasn't directed at Palin either -- but at policies and how they will not change under a McCain administration.

You religious, racist, crazy Palin-tologists are retards - I'm out of here

Beverly, I never said she would not be interviewed, but it certainly will be a controlled with pre approved questions for her. I would like to know why she can't be interviewed. It should have happened immediately, not 2 weeks from the time she was announced as McCain's VP. If she is not tough enough to handle the media, how in the heck can she handle "America and World Problems. Oh, that's right, she doesn't know what the VP position is yet. But then when you lie with every sentence that comes out of your mouth (do a fact check honey) and ignore the fact you are lying tells me a lot!

Dr Whoo, You are totally right, but its like watching the pied piper, he whistles a tune and these sensless people follow. Obama admitted he follows the muslim faith yet he stands there and tells the American people that he is christian, THIS IS NO CHRISTIAN MAN. He surrounds himself with the waste of the world and replies "this is not the person I knew" He is not truthful, he is most likely a member of a terrorist cell group and if people don't wake up it will be to late. The liberals try to intimidate McCain for using his Military back ground, but any thinking American can see that McCain is a true American, he's devoted his whole life to America and not just to his republican party. The truth is getting out there and the liberals don't like it, because its foiling their attempt to a socialist nation.

Unity, what LIES do you speak of. Its all out there...If you haven't got the sensiblity to see it, its not my problem. But it will be yours.

POST OF Change? to be continued...

Let's not get ahead of ourselves and forget what the great McCain said in regards to Chelsea Clinton. "WHY IS CHELSEA CLINTON SO UGLY? BECAUSE HER FATHER IS JANET RENO" Tell me, what was mature and nice spirited about this????? Nice try...

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#8.7 - Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:39 AM CDT

Grabankdiot, There is nothing nice about that just as there is nothing nice about spreading rumors that Gov. Palins baby Trig is really her daughters, or posting her baby on e-bay and saying he's a prop. its disgusting.

BeverlyH, "member of a terrorist cell group"? You right-wing nut-jobs are getting nuttier by the day.

We want more war, more deficits, no energy policy and lower taxes for the rich. Vote MCCain.

Obama is the one getting desperate nowadays. I think the honeymoon is over. People were just mesmerized at first by his speeches. Now people are beginning to realize that the presidency is not about speeches. With a thin resume, Americans will think hard comes election time. Obama just does not fit the bill. Polls speak volumes.

What will come into play is the fact that Obama's candidacy is driven solely by his personal ambition. He started his presidential campaign right on the very first day of his Senate term. That's why he has no legislative accomplishments to speak of. All he has are plans, grandiose plans that are embedded only in his speeches. It was not too long ago that Hillary speaks mockingly of him about it, right?

The Democratic Party were duped by him. With curious throngs of people hearing his rhetorics, democrats were made to believe that popularity matters in this election. They dumped established party bigwigs in his favor even though he was an unproven candidate. Deep inside they thought being black and popular will give them the upperhand in this election although, of course, they won't talk loudly about it for fear of being accused of playing the race card.

But play the race card, they will, once Obama wins the election. Democrats will show their true colors. They will shout to the whole world, OBAMA, THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT OF AMERICA, WINS IN HISTORIC FASHION.

Sheer hypocrisy.

I don't think America is that stupid, I still have faith in the American people. They have got to see that all things point to Obama's dislike for America, and yes it is his ambition and ability to read a good speech, but that does not make him worthy of our highest position.
His ties and his character will bite him in the butt.

MRT, Yes, I said his ties to terrorist cells, He didn't co-chair Ayers Organization for nothing and his long standing relationship from his racist preacher wasn't for the love of christ. He is an admitted Muslim. Why do you think the islamic counties want him to win the election? If you think its because they want to end the war, think again...They want America at all cost.

I am waiting for some little kid to point at McCain and say "but mommy, he has no clothes on!!"

Just like a liberal, I suppose you are also waiting for Obama to take you over the rainbow and shower you with a pot of gold.

Beverly, this is my last posting to you, because you are an right wing idiot. But since you are blindly following, I will give you a couple of examples. Palin lied about the "bridge to no where". In 2006 during her campaign for governor she supported "the bridge to no where". Then when she found out the legislature were getting ready to nix it, she started opposing it. But, she toke the federal money to fund her own pet projects. What is the difference between not building the bridge with the money the federal government had given you, but taking the money for your own pet projects that had not been approved? Also, she did not sell the private jet on ebay for a profit, she sold it at a $500,000.00 loss to an individual. She took her small town where she was the Mayor and left their budget from being in the green, to being in the red. It just goes on and on... if she will lie about the little stuff, she will lie about anything. By the way, Obama went to a catholic school the 1st 2 years he was in Indonesia then transferred to a public school that had several religions represented (just like our public schools here) for 2 years when his mother sent him back to Hawaii because she thought he would get a better education in the States at the age of 10 years old. But spewing lies is what people like you do. I was a Hillary supporter, but now I am a Obama supporter, this election should be about issues and policies and the Republicans have not shown me one policy that is different then the Bush Policies. I gave you an answer, now what policy can you tell me is different about McCain/Palin that is not already a Bush policy?

WHAT I SAY ABOUT PALIN YOU CAN'T MAKE A SILK PURSE OUT OF A SOWS EAR , BUT SHE SURE TRIES , BILLING HER STATE A PER DIEM FOR 312 DAY THAT SHE WAS HOME THAT ABOUT 2/3S OF THE DAYS SHE WAS GOV. THEFT TO ME
AND FOR THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE SHE WAS CRAFTY KEPT THE $$$$ USED IT ,SHE IS QUEEN OF THE EARMARKS PER CAPTIA MORE THEN ANY OTHER STATE,BUT SURE SHE IS GOING TO CLEAN UP WASHINGTON GET RID OF THE GOOD OLD BOYS , WELL SHE AND MCCAIN ARE THE GOOD OLE BOYS THEY HAV ETHE ROVE GROUP BEHIND THE SCEENS .SHE DOSN'T BELEIVE IN GLOBAL WARMING , SHE MY FRIENDS AS JOHNNY WOULD SAY IS A BULLY PLUS , A BULLY WITH A DRESS AND LIPSTICK , A GOOD OLE BOY HERSELF. SHE ONLY WANTS YES PEOPLE AROUND HER . KILLS ALL THESE ANIMALS , SURE WITH THIS ECONOMY SHE PROBABLY NEEDS THE FOOD.SHOOTING ANIMALS FROM THE HELICOPTER, OR AIRPLAIN SHE MUST BE A CHENEY BUDDY.
THE WORLD IS DIFFERENT TODAY SARAH , YOU JUST DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE. WE HAVE TO SAVE THE ENVIORMENT FOR OUR CHILDREN ARE DONN'T YOU CARE , GUESS NOT

Sarah Palin's family is typical of American families in this day and age. I respect the fact that she stands beside her children proudly instead of shoving them in a closet to suit people who live with their head in the sand. No one who has a family has all perfect people, and who would want to. It is through our mistakes that we learn and grow and gain strength. This country was built by people who were in large part renegades from other lands who came here for a fresh start, to live freely. Freedom lends itself to error as we are free to make mistakes, thank God.

Gee, I wonder why the Alaskan people have an 80% approval of her if she was such a bad Gov.. You can support who ever you want, I really don't care, just like I'm sure you don't care how I vote. But one thing for certain I will always be on the American side of the street. I won't support someone that is so translucent...And O himself admitted to being a Muslim, with his ties to Ayers and Wright this man is not a true American...my opinion

I totally agree! Enough is Enough! It's the same McCain,Bush,Rove tactics. I call upon Hillary's supporters to not let this go unnoticed. Why was it ok for Hillary and not today? I am a supporter of Obama also but let me be clear it was Hillary who cracked those glass ceilings and she is to be respected. Come on Hill's gals get fired up and ready to go. YES WE CAN!!!

Listen I think Lipstick should be banned from politics. It is such a flip-flopper. Sometimes it is for change and sometimes not:
- Put lipstick on a pit bull and it becomes a hockey mom
- But put lipstick on a pig, and ... nothing ... still a pig
- Then try it on Cheney.. Lo and behold... Gov. Palin!

Come on, take a side Ms. Lipstick!

Raco - While I don't agree with everything you said after the first two or three sentences, I am glad to see that someone with the discretion and incite to review the entire statement made by Obama and the context that it was actually used, is leading this discussion.

Eileen, Eileen, Eileen - criticize offensive language and name calling and then go on to do it yourself. Hold back the stones! Let's see....biblical reference to use here? Oh, I got one -- "Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord".

InspectorGadget - Read the entire Obama quote and educate yourself on what he was talking about before you answer or give your input. Or, just go on happily accepting anything your candidate tells you is true.

Obama is trying to take the focus off of the real problem...right here...is he or is he NOT a US citizen...Still Obama cannot prove that he was born in the USA , records show him born in Kenya and Jakarta , but not in Hawaii like he said...watch this video and ask yourself , who is Obama really ?

Brenda, you are absolutely correct. I was a Hillary supporter and I believed in her and her policies. I am now an Obama supporter because of the policies and issues he brings to the table. Believe me, I did my homework on Obama and I am very comfortable with him. Palin will never be in the "SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELING PANT SUITS". Hillary supporters..... she wants us to be with her on the issues, she will still be a Senator writing the bills that we want and need and Obama will be there to approve them. It was a hard fought campaign, but we did not win stick to the policies and issues and do not just settle for any woman in the White House make it the RIGHT WOMAN IN 2012!

RACO,

You might be the most ignorant, hypocritical person I don't know. Based on your comment, I figure you are perfect. I figure you have never made a mistake. What do your comments about a pregnant 17 year old have anything to do with this discussion? Do you truly believe Palin was "congratulated and given the Vice presidential nomination for their own unwed pregnant daughter"? Don't you think this comment is a little emotional and immature? Her nomination has nothing to do with her unwed pregnant daughter. Why bring this up? 17 year-olds make their own decisions. They know what they are doing. Based on your comments, I can only imagine what you're hiding in YOUR closet. Correct me if I'm wrong but did you also call an unborn child a bastard? You state "May God Save and Bless America" but you call an unborn child a bastard. That's really "American" of you. Personally, I'm happy the Palin family has embraced the arrival of this baby instead of choosing "the" alternative. Finally, you also quickly forget the adulterer that was in the White House 8 years ago. Come on, let's think before we speak. Some advice for you: before you post your impulsive, undeveloped, emotional comments for all to see, take a minute and try to develop something mature and thoughtful to say. You should be more concerned and passionate about other problems (economy, jobs, Iraq, etc.) than an unwed pregnant 17 year old.

McCain does not surprise me one bit. Offering Palin as a potential leader of the free world. Supported the bridge to no where or not. She was just jubilant and cutesy about selling the governors plane on eBay. McCain was gloating she sold it on eBay and for a profit.

LAIRS THE LOT OF THEM. Oh and the I retired the Chef story....yes a lie.

Is this not the same pit-bull-crap we have been accustomed to from the Carl Rove political spin machine.

How does one camouflage adultery, lying and no matter how much lipstick you put on Grandpa McCain will never look like the agent of change.
Fool me once, twice....they must think we are morons to keep buying this ole Bush/Cheny/Rove tactics.

First of all I don't believe you've been a republican your whole life. If you were you would still see the fundamental socialist "redistribution of wealth" policies that the democratic party has always been in favor of (Not to mention MORE GOVERNMENT and higher taxes to pay for it.) and you still wouldn't wish that on a free society.

Secondly, parading fornicators... hmmm... let's see... as long as they aren't paraded then its OK? Maybe it would be OK then, even better, if they announced that they were going to do the "right" and legal thing and have an abortion?

Which brings to mind such noble liberal democratic ideals such as same sex marriage ("abomination" according to the word of God that you're obviously aware of if you're pointing fingers at fornicators) and Pro-Choice (which other than rape and incest is usually a "convenient CONTINUED choice" to KILL rather than accept the inconvenient responsibility for a prior convenient CHOICE to engage in sex in the first place. Instead its conveniently legal to DENY the choice of life to a child who can't defend it's own rights yet. Life begins when LIFE BEGINS. You wouldn't have to KILL a baby if wasn't ALIVE already!!)

So go ahead and ignore the fundamental values that made you a "republican your whole life, until now"..... by the way, what a coincidence... I've been a democrat my whole life... until now... right.... oh, I mean left...

lol
Nice try you guys, but McCain used the "lipstick on a pig" comment when he was talking about Hillary's health care plan early in this race.
Methinks McCain protest too much!
Celebrity was to be mocked, until they had the Palin celebrity.
Change was to be mocked, until they used Palin to represent change.
"Lipstick on a pig" was okay to say until Barack said it.
rotflmao
Hypcrites, hypocrites, hypocrites!

McCain's the one who lied when he said he'd run a respectful campaign and started lying shortly thereafter. Obama's been a gentleman and I'm proud he's my candidate. Your "man of honor" is a liar!

Roy - If you don't like what's being said about your candidate McCain stop reading the headlines and the blogs. You seem pretty thin skinned. Grow up.

This is rich...

"We do it to you and you complain, you're a whiner.
"You do it to us and we compalin, you're disgraceful."

Welcome to the silly season indeed.

Two words BOO HOO!
This is a Presidential race not a beauty pageant. Besides, "Pitbull Palin" can take it, can't she? ~G

PS, When is Palin going to finally get out on her own? Her possible future boss sure has her on a short leash.

Roy Wilson needs to get over it. McCain reminds of the playground boy who keeps crying "no fair" whenever one of the other kids does anything. Rather than just playing with the other kids. John Bush, I mean McCain, is desperate and he is willing to throw Palin under the bus in order to win.

This protest is from a man who ridicules Obama's patriotism and character by saying "Obama would rather loose a war than loose an election" and who choose a running mate based SOLELY on gender. How cynical and hypocritical can a person be? And the right-wing activists continue to imply or flat out charge that Obama is a Muslim? Not only is it lie but it's also a denigration of a religion.
Is this what politics in this country has become? It's more like the Super Bowl. PATHETIC!

talk big until i called your bluff, cry baby

Nobody said that Palin can't take the remark from Obama, it just show the lack of class he has. Also, he is proving more and more that his is not fit to be president, and the public is taking notice, hence the polls.

Read the article, How Obama lost the election, by Spengler, in the Asian Times. It sums up what Obama has done to put himself in this position.

Don't you mean.

You know, if it walks like a duck....... it's a hockibabe

You might be right. Sen. Obama is known for "hopping on the bandwagon" late as far as legislation goes and then taking credit for creating it. Perhaps it's the same with "borrowing" rhetoric. This whole conversation is ridiculous because Obama supporters are defaming Palin just like they defamed the only credible candidate in this whole cycle (Hillary) and now, as is par for the course with them, they are having hissy fits because the whole world is not genuflecting to Obama. And, in their nastiness and arrogance, they refuse to see that they have weakened their candidate by alienating a large part of their own party. So much for people who have been out of power so long that they are now behaving in exactly the same way that the republicans did. And, in the end, the democrats will fall again, the republicans will come up, nothing will ever change, and the whole pathetic cycle will begin again.

To-all-who-don't-understand-the-use-of-similes: from M Webster-(it is)a figure of speech comparing two unlike things that is often introduced by like or as (as in cheeks like roses) ). His statement was a simile. Nothing more than standard literary license. Mr. McCain used the same phrase several times in reference to Mrs. Clinton's health care package. I believe this has already been cited by: Destiny's Child #4.3 above. Is Mr. McCain to be rebuked for those statements?

Mr. Obama's reference and simile were used to compare the current administration to the platform under the same party. It was made even more clear by the adjacent use of the metaphor: fish in a piece of paper. If Mr. McCain insists that the simile was a reference to his running mate, then that is something Mrs. Palin should take up with him.

As for 'evil' intentions or thoughts......one need look no further than Carl Rove who is surely the author of these specious attacks on Mr. Obama. It has his 'fingerprints' all over it.

Since I assume you don't know Carl Rove, I assume you don't know whose fingerprints were on it. Mr. Obama missed the fact that his followers would pick up on it. After all, they are past masters on sexism. Look what they did to Sen. Clinton, one of their own. Nooooo, again in your arrogance, you have completely missed the fact that you drove part of your own party away with your smallness. Obama, the DNC and his supporters can protest and defend all they want. You have a flawed candidate, just as all candidates are flawed. Obama takes things too much to heart because he has such an inflated view of himself and you have been brainwashed to think the same. You can't understand why all democrats aren't at the altar. You have completely missed the fact that you can't spit on people and expect them to be honored when you need them. Some of us are actually not sure who would be worse for this country. Who would be best for the country doesn't enter into it. Not in this election. PS, I've used the general you, not you personally.

This is why American people let the last 8 years be last 8 years. We are focusing on what words used who has better smile instead of what they can do for us.
Why a whole country is not focusing on what we need to happen in the next 4 or next decades? If you look into your daughters and sons eyes, can you tell them what you want to pass on to them? We should not be talking none sense any more. That's just distraction. For writers out there, please stop this tabloid reporting, this election is far more serious than a phrase.
I choose not to talk none sense any more, just waste of energy. At the end of the day, no one will pay the bills for me but myself. I refuse to be puppets of the politican or reporters. I have my own brain.
Yes, the country is divided into two major parties now. As we argue, as we debate, we should not forget our young children are not old enough to know what this election means to them. They don't take sides. They just need us to pass them a greater future that they can be leader once again in this world. Think about that!
Don't let our differences overshadow their dreams. Focus on what really matters.
Take a piece of paper and write down what would you do if you are running the country??? Then the choice should be clear.

Agree. I think it waws pretty clear that he was referring to the campaign itself. I think it's funny that some think Obama called Palin a "pig"? He didn't. And as if the phrase "putting lipstick on a pig" is some new quip... it's been around for many years.

Obama was right. All the talk of change IS putting lipstick on a pig. There is absolutely nothing in their policies that show any semblance of change from the current policies in place by the Bush administration. In fact, now McCain has Karl Rove working for him.... there's a change!! The Bush admin is "coaching" Sarah Palin on foreign policy. More change!!

Please tell me, exactly WHERE is this change? I can't find it. Please explain to me if McCain is so anti-lobbyist, why would he hire a number of them (including one which used to lobby for Fannie May and Freddie Mac... ) to run his campaign? It would be funny if there wasn't so much at stake.

Let's lie that we're about change when we campaign... but let's feign outrage when the opposition calls you out on it... maybe that will get us more votes. McCain isn't interested in helping this country, he's interested in getting elected.

I can tell you what I'm angry about ... I am utterly outraged at McCain twisting around legislation aimed at PROTECTING young children from sexual preditors to make a commercial claiming Obama will teach sex ed in kindergarten. It's disgusting and downright perverse to suggest that and put it on the air. But let's get upset when the opposition calls your campaign a pig. If it walks like a pig and talks like a pig....

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I wish the Republicans were as good at governing as the were at campaigning. We might not be in this mess.

Roy

This is rich...you claim that Obama disrespected Hillary(?) with this remark. Did you forget about the McCain supporter who called Hillary a "bitch" during a so-called town hall session...everyone thought that was hilarious, including McCain. I think maybe the worm has turned!!!
Go Obama!!!!!!!!

And who can forget the "joke" McCain told about "Why Chelsea Clinton is so ugly?" while Clinton was still in office.

Wait... aren't children supposed to be off-limits?

Again.. if it walks like a pig and talks like a pig...

Sara, Agreed. We should be concentrating on issues, not words that no one will even remember after November 4th.

No one remembers the comment - because they won't admit McCain can be that 'nasty'.
Glad you reminded us, though.

ralph, Rove-ian has become the new euphemistic buzz-word for dirty-political-tactics. It is broadly used, and therefore accepted. Please understand my fingerprints statement to mean Rove-ian tactic. Regards

I'm a women and a business owner. I've been in the work place for over 40 years. Successful women know that to succeed, you can't be looking over your shoulder and measuring every word to see if you should take offense. Being aware not to offend we all struggle to balance. What I fear is that this sexiest game the GOP is playing will take eyes off the issues. I really hope that people will when it comes time to vote, will think about the last eight years of GOP and ask themselves can we afford to give them another four years to perhaps get it right. My bet is with Obama, that we have the opportunity to correct the mistakes.

So when John McCain used the exact same phrase to describe Hillary Clinton's healthcare program it wasn't sexist - but for Obama to use the phrase it was? Simply amazing!
The point was that the McCain changes were exactly what Bush was already doing for the last 8 years. Before you can change something you have to admit that something was wrong - this has not been done yet. Then you have to decide how to change it - but if you can't think of anything that was wrong then why change it?
If you don't have a platform then take the Rove low road - nitpick and whine. Get a policy or two out there for the American people to consider instead of the smoke and mirrors of an incumbent running on a reform campaign.

Where was all this outrage from the republicans when McCain said "you can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig" in October 2007 referring to hillary Clintons health care plan. It is the exact same simile, but I have to remember the double standard the repubs have. For all of you that are so mad - get over it. If you want tit-for-tat, McCain said it first and you thought it was okay.

Go, Trish!

I've tried to post an opinion on this three times so forgive me if a ton of repeats suddenly show up...

Obama is obviously not very good with women. Politics aside, analogies and semantics aside, if a guy values the health and well being of his balls, he knows better than to EVER use words like "rotten fish" or "pig" to describe ANY woman. Ever.

I don't know if I'm a fan of Palin yet.. She seems weird, is about as far as I've figured out yet. But she supports her unwed pregnant daughter, it seems. Which makes her at least human. The cold, hard truth is, you can pretty much guarantee your kids are having sex, regardless of how you feel about it or what they TELL you they're doing. With sex comes that risk, no matter how safe you are. The only guarantee against pregnancy is abstinance.

I believe, Roy Wilson and others here making grand and unfounded assumptions about intent, that if you actually listened to what Barack Obama said you would see that he was talking about McCain's attempts to characterize himself as someone who will make a "change" from the current White House despite his record of support for Bush administration policies.

YOU are trying so very hard to make it something that it is not. kind of like putting lipstick on a pig.

Reply to Fisherman144 & George-404282

For your info, Hillary was my candidate. She got more popular votes than Obama, and got cheated by the Super-delegates. She was disrespected by Obama and the media repeatedly. The smirk on Obama's face when he used the "lipstick on a pig" comment, and his pause for audience reaction confirm his intent. McCain is just the lesser of evils at this time. In 4 short years, we can have Hillary in the White House.

They're objecting because they're desperate. It reminds me of little children who blame their playmates for their own behavior. Or someone who's backed into a corner and has no other defense.
The volatile air about this election is just proof that our country is divided and in serious trouble. To me, it's proof that our elected officials have not been leaders, but followers. They have followed the money, ladies and gentlemen; now the rest of us are desperately grasping onto the only thing we have left - in these cases it looks like our misguided faith(s) and our own egos.
Lipstick on a pig has been an expression forever, people. Relax. You want something to change? Vote for who you want. And then try to be a better neighbor to your fellow man.
BTW: anyone telling anyone on here that they should be ashamed for using dirty language needs to go talk to their pastor; chances are you've said those words before - you may have even had a dirty dream now and then.
People seem so afraid to change the way we do things... Are the old ways working? Riddle me that.

That's right. Look at the date here, the quote was coined by Mccain himself towards Hillary:
http:// www .swamppolitics. com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/mccain_rolls_out_health_plan— a.html

(Remove the spaces of course)

You know, everyone should do a little research, this is the internet after all, you can find all the McCain lies easily.

SuperSapien.. did you even read the article before commenting?? Or did you only read the headline which was written in such a way that you would think he was talking about Palin. He was talking about McCain's old policies which are exactly the same as Bush's. It looks as if McCain got upset by Obama calling him out on his lies and is using Palin as a shield. He's such a coward for pushing the woman in front of the bus to save his own backside. It's shameful really. And if McCain wants Obama to apologize for something he did Not say, then McCain should apologize to Hillary for all the many MANY personal attacks he made about her person and her family; including the one about her health-care plan in which he used The Exact Same Statement!!
It's unbelievable how some people can't see right through this latest ploy of the GOP. Personally I think they do see through it, (no one is that foolish) but they simply don't care. As long as another conservative government is in the white house they're happy; who cares if the economy, health care system and everything else continue to go down the drain and we're made the laughing stock of most of the world!? Way to put country first Repubs..
Obama/Biden 08!!!!!!

Really, Roy Wilson?

Trying to make us believe you turned from Hilary to McCain... Whatever else anyone says about her, Hilary's platform was geared to helping America emerge from these last eight years in the dawning of a new dark age. Her platform was for helping ordinary (NOT WEALTHY ONLY) Americans make economic progress, women's rights, improving international relations, and getting us out of the wars we're in.
McCain and Palin are AGAINST all that Hilary IS for. And trying to make us believe you care about Hilary and her ideas, IS putting lipstick ...

What really will change the world is a ticket that doesn't believe in science and global warming! That will not change the world. That will destroy the world!!!

Yes, Obama could said that. He doesn't really care how people name him because none of them matters. I don't care neither. You can call me pig, dog, fish, whatever you want. I know I am the one who pays my bill, and I am the one who lives my life. Words are words. I am not gonna lose a tooth or suddenly become a dog if you call me dog. In fact, I guess being a dog is not a bad thing at least I don't need to work so hard to pay my bills. lol
Go ahead. Call me anything you want.

Don't forget. When we are fighting each other on this none sense, we own to our sons and daughters a world that they can live in! They have no idea what we are fighting for, but what we are fighting for today shape for their future.

So take a piece of paper and write down what you will do for them if you are the president. That matters.

inspectorgagetHow outraged would you be if McCain said" if you put lipstick on a monkey it would still be a monkey." What's the diff

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Stupid is, Stupid does.....you are stupid. Obama wasn't referring to Palin at all. He has used that comparison before she was even nominated. Any fool with half a brain (which I guess you lack) would know that Obama was attempting to link McCain's ideas with Bush.
They want him to apologize? When hell freezes over.

Reply to Mia-327347

If you had been following any of my comments over the last 6 months, you'd see that I've always supported Hillary. Don't you people realize you're playing right into the hands of the Republicans with all of these negative comments? They just serve to discourage turnout in November, and that favors them. Obama should just say "My comments on "putting lipstick on a pig" were misconstrued, but I'm sorry if they offended anyone". Then the furor would die out. But he's too prideful to admit a mistake. Poor judgment. If Hillary was the nominee, she'd be 10-15% ahead instead of 10-15% behind (when you consider "likely" voters and the "Bradley Effect".

RoyWilson - He was talking about a pig and makeup. If anyone is sexist, it's you, drawing the conclusion that he was comparing women to pigs merely by his reference to lipstick. Ummm, some men wear lipstick too.

The analogy was that you can't change what something is by covering it in something pretty. Underneath, it's still what it is.

Does that help? I can't dumb it down anymore than that.

Give it up Roy

You're not going to win your argument.
Go back and read DennisD...she explains it better than anyone. If you were ever for Hillary, you must be willing to 'cut off your nose to spite your face', if you intend to support the Repugs.

Roy W---the McCain camp is using this 'lipstick on a pig' as a typical Karl Rove move to humble Obama. Truth is, 'Lipstick on a Pig' is the title of a book written by Torie Clarke (in 2006, long before Obama got into this race) who used to work for McCain. So lets get all upset about being used by Karl Rove instead !!!

Lipstick on a pig? They dare to call that old saw shameful after the RNC hauled out a blatant sham of a Tribute to 9/11? Why is no one talking about that???...except, of course, for Keith Olbermann, and look what happened to him.

That was the most disgusting thing I've seen so far. While our national tragedy deserves to never be forgotten, to air it on the stage of the RNC made it no more than an obscene marketing tool. "OK...let's suck at the teat of fear and suffering for five minutes and then go have another drink and wear funny hats."

Also, as far as I know, Sarah has not copyrighted the term "lipstick"...are we now to assume that the term is now exclusive...I smell a "threepeat". Will we have to pay her each time we say it, use it or buy it?

If the American public is so easily sidetracked, so totally unable to think for themselves, I guess we deserve 4 more years.

BTW: Is it possible that Mr.Obama was referring to Mr Giuliani..we've all seen those photos. Now that's trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear...oops!

You are absolutely right about the disrespect the RNC and McShame's ticket is giving to our Country. Who does McCain represent?....Himself, of course, not us.

Greed and power is all that the Rovians understand. McCain/Palin have lost by way of their infantile approach to the electorate.

About time they stood up to these false carges. This phrase goes back years and has no relation to the to Palins remark unless she used it to make the pit bull statement

The next line is similar about the fish. Change does smell like a rotten fish if uttered by a Republican.

Does this mean that since Obama started the change statement McCain cant use it?

They are also claiming one of Biden made a remark that he should apologize for.

The phrase that ends with some of it will stick applies to Palin/McCain

The majority of people don't live, eat and breath politics like some on these boards. The last time they heard lipstick from a politician was Palin. I am not surprised many made the connection. Obama is clearly better at reading speeches and he should stick to a script. Just words he said, and words do matter.

Let's talk issues ...

HOW BARACK HUSSEIN'S TAX INCREASES WILL SQUELCH OUR ECONOMY AND LOWER TAX REVENUES

A really good video that gives you the gist of what happens when you raise taxes by the Cato Institute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?aq=f&emb=0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideosearch%3Fq%3Dobama+taxes&v=ADdgmfVWAkM

Barack Hussein Obama wants the economy of The United States of America to look like the stagnant economies of France or Russia. That's what it really boils down to if you look at it from a different angle.

Use your common sense. When has higher taxes helped our economy? Never. And do we want our economy to resemble Europe's? I don't!

And don't get fooled by the Junior Senator's tax break to the masses trick. What's the use of a dinky check at the end of the year when your employer is cutting your salary? Or worse? Laying you off.

About the Cato Institute:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_institute

Listen I think Lipstick should be banned from politics. It is such a flip-flopper. Sometimes it is for change and sometimes not:

- Put lipstick on a pit bull and it becomes a hockey mom

- But put lipstick on a pig, and ... nothing ... still a pig

- Then try it on Cheney and.. lo and behold.. Gov Palin

As for McCain, no accessories needed, was Bush, is Bush, will remain Bush

We need more kopechne killer kennedy ideas---slash the military and give the money to pet s. chicago and Boston projects!!!!--

How did lipstick on a moose come about? It's a common saying in politics. Just the same GOP tactics of not talking about the real issues and using LIES, DECEIT and DISTORTIONS to do. Boy now that sure sounds like CHANGE!. (Thanks, but no thanks!)

This from Newsweek Andre Romano posted today: The Politics of Stupidity:

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/10/the-politics-of-stupidity.aspx

The point, of course, was get everyone speculating about whether or not Obama had committed a heinous act "sexism" and change the day's debate from education to gender insensitivity. Never mind that "you can put lipstick on a pig" is an old idiomatic expression. Never mind that Obama was talking about McCain--not Palin--when he used it. Never mind that Obama also said that "you can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called 'change,' [but] it's still gonna stink after eight years." Never mind that McCain's former press secretary, Torie Clarke, wrote a book called "Lipstick on a Pig: Winning in the No-Spin Era." Never mind that Elizabeth Edwards once compared McCain's health care plan to "painting lipstick on a pig." Never mind that Obama has used the phrase before, claiming last September that Gen. David Petraeus "has done his best to try to figure out how to put lipstick on a pig" in Iraq. And never mind that McCain said the same thing of Hillary Clinton's health care plan the following month, characterizing it as "eerily" similar to her failed 1993 proposal. "I think they put some lipstick on a pig," McCain said, "but it's still a pig."

Never mind all that. According to McCain, Obama wasn't doing what he, Clarke, Edwards and Obama himself had done before--you know, just using a colorful American metaphor. No. In McCain's view, Obama was actually dumb enough to mount the stage, face the cameras and boldly announce that Sarah Palin is a porker. Or at least that's what McCain--a man whose party has long decried the routine accusations of "sexism" and "racism" associated with identity politics, and whose VP said earlier this year that playing the gender card "doesn't do us any good, women in politics"--is hoping that the rest of us are dumb enough to believe. Next thing you know, he'll accuse his opponent of calling Palin a fish.

Obama can do nothing right; according to the medias...

When he doesn't speak out, they say he's weak. When he does speak out, they say he's desperate. Come on... I don't hear anyone speaking to the comment that McCain made about Chelsea Clinton. Here, let me remind you: "WHY IS CHELSEA CLINTON SO UGLY? BECAUSE HER FATHER IS JANET RENO." How dare him ask Obama to apologize to Palin. Did he apologize to Chelsea for telling the nation that she was ugly?! Can Palin please address the nation with her plan instead of attempting to insult Obama the entire time. Please... It's possible that this woman may be are VP and future president; I want to hear her speak TO THE PEOPLE, NOT FROM HER NOTES!!!

Obama is not a Muslim people; he's a Christian man. That was a supposed mistake made by the media and they apologized for this. The media is trying to find any way possible to sway the thoughts of the American public in hopes that individuals who don't take time and do-there-homework will take their word for it and vote for McCain out of fear. These reporters are mostly republicans (its obvious...) and want to see a republican man back in the White House. Might I ad, from reading over some these blogs, it seems to be working...

Who cares if it was a pig or pit bull. I'm still waiting to hear about what McCain/Palin are going to do about healthcare, taxes, the war, union busting policies of Bush. What is this change they've been talking about? Still undecided, but they are definetly running out of time. How are the Republicans going to make health care affordable, and why if it is such an issue hasn't McCain rode Bush to get something done, they are both Republicans. Watch CBS, they are giving differences between the proposals of the candidates this week. Taxes look better under Obama if you're making less than 250K a year. MUCH BETTER. 9/11,9/11/9/11. Surge/Surge/Surge... Give us something else, if you're not a Bush politician, quit acting like it.

In 4 short years, we can have Hillary in the White House

Or not. Here's to no guarantees.

What's more, the last EIGHT 'short years' have been way too long for many.
Can we afford four more?

"You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

If McCain thinks the remark was a personal one directed at Palin, then why isn't he complaining about being called a stinking old fish?

Stick to the issues that mean something to the American voter.

What's worse? Lipsitck on a pit-bull or a pig?

What a refreshing development: racism, sexism, religious extremism, rote repetition of party propaganda and blind colossal ignorance all composted together in one stinky pile in a single pathetic personality.

Hats off to you, JackB: reactionary throwbacks like you are the reason the Democrats have registered over 11 million new voters since June!

Now let me understand this... I must be missing something ! Palin considered herself a "Pit bull" and Obama called his wife a "Pig"? I though his family was off-limits for any mud slinging ? Aren't they only allowed to sling mud at Palin and her family ?

McCain has a lot of nerve for criticising Obama on this issue.

See this:

Campaigning in Des Moines, Iowa, in October, McCain had criticized the Democratic contenders for president for proposing costly universal health care plans. He had not examined Clinton's health-care plan, he said, but it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the early 1990s.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig,'' McCain said of Clinton's proposal.

Obama opened his mouth again with out someone writing what to say. Obama got caught showing what he really is like. Now he is trying to blame McCain to get out of it. It's always someone else's fault. Obama needs to learn to be responsible for himself

You're asking that question because you didn't see the speech given by Palin. Or if you saw it, you just don't see how it is offensive. Pretend you were a woman if you're not. Then look at the perspective from all angles. It's very clear to me what he meant and what he refered to.

As a 60 year old female voter, I have to look at the whole picture.
Do I want a 72 year old War Hero who is hell-bent on get us into WWIII A person who thinks taxing your health care provided by your employer is okay and will save you money. Who thinks cutting back on funding for our Veterans, cutting back on education. A candidate that picks a running mate who likens herself to a pit-bull or barracuda.
Or do I pick someone who has visions of making our world a little more peaceful, of giving our children the opportunity of education, to give everyone a fair chance at health care, and making sure our sons and daughters are taken care of when they come home from Iraq.
I ask you now. Those of you who are voting for, or are considering voting for McCain because of Sarah Palin had better stop and THINK, THINK, THINK. Sarah will be taking orders from McCain. He could be our President not Palin. God forbid something happen to him while in office and Sarah Palin takes over. Truthfully is scares the you-know-what right out of me.
Don't vote for her because she is a woman. Truth be known she is probably more Anti-Woman than any man. Don't vote for someone who says this mess in Iraq is God's Will.
Don't vote for someone who refused to protect one of God's most beautiful creatures.
Don't vote for someone who says that it is not man's fault that there is global warming.
As for me, I prefer someone with Vision

PLEASE! MCCAIN should APOLOGIZE for thinking American women are stupid enough to vote for him & Palin.

US Freedom-

So now Michelle Obama is a racist pig.... then that makes Cindy McCain a homewrecking pig, that went against moral values and had an affair with a married man, and now that immoral pig is married to the Presidential nominee...

I guess they both have some distasteful wives then, right! oh, are you going to say, that was 28 years ago like another blogger, and that McCain has owned up to the greatest immoral mistake of his life... "oh I'm sorry, he didn't own up to the mistake, he married it"

I think that talking about Obama's wife is very low... but lets bring everyone in on it... Palin is a "hockey mom" with a pregnant teen unwed daugther... I hope she won't need any government funding... Ooops. no she won't, she'll get it straight from the source

Pigs make much more pleasant pets than pit bulls.
Why do Republicans hate pigs ????
How elitist !!!!

inspectorgaget-

So are you saying that white people are pigs and that black people are monkeys... You might as well use the "N" word, that's all white people have been waiting to say anyway...

McCain used the term "pig" but now that Obama says it, it's racial.... Grow up, please... We can call a thousand names, are you teaching them to your children, or have you taught them to your children. or is this just a way for you to really express your racial views and discomfort for black people. I bet you probably work with black people, go to school with black people, black people might patronize your business, or pump gas back to you, and you probably smile in their faces... But you will still categorize black people as "monkey"

First people say that his comment was sexest and disrespectful to Palin, now it was racist...

But was it sexest when McCain used it, or racist toward Hillary...

Get a life, and grow out of your racist phase in life...

You should change your display name from US Freedom, because obviously you would like slavery to still exist

If he had meant Palin he would have said "lipstick on a Pitt Bull"....

I don't think it is McCain's protesting that really matters. What really matters is that he said it! The reaction from his audience shows that they knew what he was referring to in his discourse. What counts is the multitudes of female voters who were offended by this comment. Democrats are very naive people if they want to swallow his bravado and lack of retraction today.

Ho hum! Just more of the same by the neo-conservative "swift boat" machine. Create a non-issue and hammer on it loud enough and they can count on the media to swallow the bait. Come on voters, don't let the Rovian neophytes succeed in turning our attention from the real issues.

The Obama campaign is NOT "smearing" Palin just because they are actually researching her record in Alaska. They are doing the job they should be doing. Check the facts. She may be held up as an agent for change by the neo-conservatives, but her record is more of the extremist same we have come to expect from them.

Whether it is lying about the bridge to nowhere to her trying to ban books at her city's library and threatening the librarians job if she does not "fully support the mayor", Palin is just another extremist neo-conservative who is totally out of touch with reality.

Well bless their little hearts, McCain and his surrogates have their itty bitty feelings hurt. Lies and innuendos aren't enough for them to spread, they now are acting as if they are above mud slinging. They have the experts who wrote the book on dirty politics. A stinking old fish would be a fair description of his policies. The Republicans keep wrapping the same old do nothing for the people in ribbon and calling it change. Lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig; the pig is more of the same pork that Bush has passed as economic plans. If you are wealthy, own an oil company, are holier than thou, have so many homes you don't know where or how many they are, love to see young men and women give their all for your holy wars, like things that make mushroom clouds, use your office to get even or ruin a career then McCain and his Pitt Bull dog are your kind of people. They just love shovelling it down on the average Joe. Some just love gobbling it up, maybe they think they'll become a righteous Republican. McCain is surely what we need if we want to move backwards. One other little item, Congress stopped the bridge to nowhere, not Palin. She had the state hire a consultant to promote the bridge to Congress. When will any Republican run for any office and be willing to tell the truth. Not in My Life Time.

Nothing between those big ears of Omama's but air. Liberal loser's.McCain/Palin 08

He was clearly speaking to the McCain \ Palin policy positions - just like McCain was when he used the same saying when speaking about Hillary Clinton. When Obama said it he ONLY used McCain's name - he did not bring up Palin.

If McCain \ Palin can't handle a little lipstick joke how can they stand up to Putin?!?!?

America Deserves the TRUTH ! why can't Obama produce a real legal photo copy of his American Birth Certificate ???
Why are there birth records of Obama in Jakarta , and Kenya ! but not Hawaii ???
Why has Obama posted a .JPG of his certificate of live birth and it was a FAKE ! they have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt it is a FAKE ! in fact it belongs to his 1/2 sister who was born in Jakarta ! not in Hawaii as it says !!!.. which means , not only is it a fake , its a fake fake !

Obama is NOT a legal US Citizen ! and he is NOT eligible to be run for President !

Obama his trying to hide the fact that he is an Indonesian Muslim plant ! trying to undermine the US Government !

If Obama was truly a Legal American Citizen he could simply squash this by submitting a legal copy of his real American Birth Certificate....right ???

But he CANNOT !!!

watch the video !!! and learn the TRUTH !!! Obama is NOT a legal American Citizen !!

Watch ME NOW and Learn the TRUTH !!!

Actually folks, this was a very clever move by Obama and his campaign to shred the animal analogies that were a primary part of Republican strategy. Now whenever you think of Palin, you will think not a pit bull hockey mom but a rdiculous pig.

I commend the dems for forcing the GOP back to the drawing board. For there next strategy. Perhaps they will go with the looks like a duck, walks like a duck routine, but then I ask "Why a duck?" We shouldn't make fun of immigrants who talk funny.

If you don't understand any of this post, you need to go watch some Marxist videos starring Groucho, Chico and the gang.

Reply to George-404282

I guess the proof will have to be in the pudding - we'll see what the response is in the polls. As to supporting McCain, I don't think I could vote for him, but I also can't vote for Obama. I'll just have to sit this one out, or vote for Nader. My only point is that, if Obama gets in and screws things up, which I consider likely, Hillary will never get a chance again. She showed a lot of class and fortitude in the face of constant drumbeats against her by Obama's surrogates and the sexist media - qualities that most Americans admire, but even now many Obamaniacs still disrespect her, telling her supporters to "just get over it". And Obama really missed the boat by not naming her his VP. Poor judgment. By the way, the polls don't reflect "likely voters" which strongly favor Conservatives, and you might want to do some research on the "Bradley Effect".

I supported John McCain in 2000. In my opinion, what George W. Bush did to him in the Carolinas was despicable, and made it impossible for me to ever vote for Bush. In my view, the presidential elections are entirely about the characters of the candidates. Times change so policies change, but I believe a person's character, a person's core, is immutable. The facts about John McCain's youth, that he goofed off in school, coming in 5th from the bottom of the 899 cadets in his class, that he got into and through Annapolis through his Admiral father's influence, that he was captured and imprisoned in Viet Nam, that in his old age he says he can't remember how many houses he owns or how much money he has, I take all these with a grain of salt. The young often grow out of their foolishness and perform a brave act, and the old sometimes forget.
I just can't bring myself to vote for someone I now know to be an adulterer.
This year I learned that John McCain met Carol Shepp, a swimsuit model from Philadelphia, in 1964. They married in '65 and had a daughter. While John was imprisoned in Nam, Carol was in an accident that ruptured her spleen, broke her arm and her hip, and crushed both her legs, leaving her six months in the hospital. Two more years and 23 operations left Carol four inches shorter than when she'd first met John. When John was released from Nam, he told friends she was "…not the woman I married." His POW status allowed him to strike up a friendship with the Reagans. While Carol worked in Ronald Reagan's 1976 presidential campaign, John had extramarital affairs. In 1979, a 42 year old John chased a 24 year old beer distributor heiress, Cindy Lou Hensley, around a buffet table set up to honor veterans, and had a relationship. Months later John shocked Carol and the Reagans with his divorce demand. I have yet to hear that the Reagans forgave him.
Now John has admitted his sin and I can forgive, as Jesus would have me do. But then, it's not hard to forgive a man for breaking his solemn promise to someone else. And if he and Carol had agreed to a divorce, releasing each other from their vows, before he started having affairs, I could forget. But John couldn't wait. And now he proposes to share the Oval Office with a former beauty pageant "Miss Congeniality". What I can't do is ever trust a man who breaks the most sacred oath a person ever takes, "…to love and to cherish…in sickness and in health…till death do us part."
I suppose there are those who would see nothing wrong with doing what John did and would find some way to defend it, but I believe that to keep our sacred oaths against the pull of animal instinct is where true courage and true character are found.
How can he ever be trusted to keep any promise he makes about judges or the unborn or anything else, if he can't keep the most sacred one?

Now, now,...even you repugs know that we dems have too much respects for pigs to insult them like that....

If a person lies about one thing they'll lie about anything! I guess when you have the same speech day after day one believes that phrase about e-bay, bridge to nowhere, etc. She thinks she's cute, but certainly of no substance. Clearly the woman has no CLASS!

Fom another poster

Enough!!
Obama/Biden '08

LouDob=idiot.

I feel for you and all the the intelligent people who can think for themselves and do not absorbe all the propaganda of this fascist party. I would be you, if MC Cain is elected, you can say good bye to What was once America.. You should also leave this country since you have kids.. You know that MC Cain will restore the draft. These people want to control the world... It is a disease. they never have enough, they always want more and more.

I am leaving the country and cannot wait. The past 8 years have been horrible and Bush/Cheney have made me hate the people who had the stupidity to vote for them even once and again are ready to vote for them. This is pure insanity.

.. So many lives lost, so many lives destroyed in all side... I feel for the soldiers who come back to broken home, foreclosures and all the other terrible problems they face. It is an outraged that people who fight for those pigs of republicans are treated with such little respect.

I would be the military, I would have thrown these crooks out of the white house and taken the power. They have done it in other countries I do not understand why they have not done it in this country.. They had all the reasons for it!

They showed clips on the new last night of MCCAIN uttering that exact same phrase in reference to Hillary Clinton... It's okay when he does it, but because Obama says it, not even directed at Palin, he's persecuted. The right wing campaign tactics are disgusting, and this whole situation made someone very close to me switch their vote from McCain to Obama, FINALLY. We're going to the Board of Elections EARLY and casting our vote.

McCain used the Lipstick on a Pig analogy when he was referring to one of Hillary's plans. Did he have to apologize. Of course not, because the democrats didn't make an issue of it. While we are discussing harassment does anyone remember McCains comment about Chelsea Clinton? Let me refresh your memory. McCain"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." So much for children being off limits. McCain needs to start practicing what he preaches.

I am a CHRISTIAN that understands the word of God so to see the word of God coming to life makes me to know that God is God.

The Bible teaches us that to be forgiven for ones sin, one must stop sinning. Even if a person asks for forgiveness but continues to make sin ones lifestyle those sins will not be forgiven until the sin is stopped.

2 Chronicles 7

14If my own people will humbly pray and turn back to me and stop sinning, then I will answer them from heaven. I will forgive them and make their land fertile once again.

The Bible teaches us the below scriptures:

Mark 10

11 He told them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries someone else commits adultery against her. 12 And if a woman divorces her husband and marries someone else, she commits adultery."

1 Corinthians 6

9 Don't you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 10 or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God.

In the above scripture we find that an adulterer is one that divorces its mate for another which makes the adulterer not represent God. In its present condition, the adulterer will go to hell.

As you can see, God puts the homosexual and the adulterer in the same category as He does not make a difference between the two. In their present condition, both are hell bound. Therefore, those conservatives that support John McCain should either not support McCain or shut up about the homosexuals and those that abort their babies because their hypocritical ways are doing more harm than good to the Kingdom of God. If they are sincere, they can speak out against homosexuals, adulterers fornicators etc but they would have to go against John McCain as one can not coexist with the other.

It puzzles me that any Catholic or Jewish person would vote for McCain especially since the Jewish people shun adulterers and the Catholic .
Church will not marry you if you committed adultery.

This brings us to why the conservatives crucify gays while supporting John McCain the adulterer! If you do not know by now, John McCain left his "crippled" wife for a young, rich woman, Cindy, his current wife. He admitted to being an adulterer. No, God will not forgive John for simply admitting that he is an adulterer because he MUST stop sinning. God does not recognize John and Cindy McCain's marriage as He sees them as living in sin. Therefore, John MUST divorce Cindy and either return to Carol, his first wife, or remain celibate. John has done neither condition, which means that John McCain is STILL an adulterer regardless of his confession. Repentance means to stop the sin as well as the changing of ones mind towards that sin. Since the Evangelicals/conservatives know this about McCain, then why would the Evangelicals throw their support behind an adulterer? Isn't this picking and choosing which sin to accept and which sin to attack? Of course it is which would make ANYONE that say that they are a Christian and support McCain to be a hypocrite! They cannot rebuke the homosexuals or those that abort because they are just as guilty for supporting an adulterer. God will condemn them just as He will condemn John McCain.

The Evangelicals/conservatives that support McCain know about this but they do not want you to know about their sin as they want to appear righteous but they are just as sinful as the ones that abort their babies, homosexuals etc. These people are Pharisees as in the Bible; the Pharisees pushed the government agenda just as those conservatives for John are doing to do.

The Evangelicals/conservatives that support John McCain say that they care about this country but why would you want McCain, the adulterer, to be the leader of the free world. Doesn't this country supposed to represent God? Well, having John as president is not sending a message of godliness but one against God. How can this country be taken seriously for being a godly country when the people selected a man who is against God? How can McCain go before leaders condemning their actions when his own actions need to be condemned? He cannot talk about Bin Laden for killing people because from the Bible standpoint killing and adultery breaks God's commandment which means that John McCain is not any better than Bin Laden. God will punish this country for putting John McCain as president because John cannot represent a godly country. God will not be with this country if John becomes president because John McCain is an adulterer. We will be sinning against God and look what happened to the children of Israel for sinning against God. After what Bush did to this country and the Evangelicals supporting John McCain, I can see how the anti-Christ takes over the world. McCain and Bush are preparing for the anti-Christ.

Therefore, when you hear someone that claims to be a Christian that votes for John McCain, remind them of the scriptures that I posted and ask them if they are following the word of God or if they are going against God's word. Call them out and call them a HYPOCRITE because that is what they are, a HYPOCRITE. Let them know that God is not pleased with their action.

Remember, there are Evangelicals/conservatives that will not vote for John McCain for that reason so hypocrite will not apply to them but to those that vote for John McCain as they cannot serve two gods! It is either they are for God or against God as there is no lukewarm. God will spew them out because their actions are teaching a different theology from God's word the One that they profess to follow. In the Bible, in Romans 2, God talks about the outcome of the Evangelicals/conservatives, Christians that are calling themselves a Christians but is not living by the word.

Woman2Woman,
thank you for your post. While I do not subscribe to all of your religious beliefs, I have been bothered for a long time by politicians who promote themselves as being "religious", while they are actually hypocrites, something most often associated with Republicans. I don't know what the Bible has to say about people who dishonestly claim to be good Christians in order to claim some competitive advantage over others, but it seems to me that is should be considered a sin on the same level as profaning the Lord or thievery from a church. John McCain's adultery is certainly a sin, but his attempt to lure voters by posing as a good Christian and using Palin's stongly religious views to enhance his campaign seems to be to be a much worse affront to the morality preached by Jesus Christ.

No room for "lipstick" comments when only one of the running mates wears lipstick. Would you you use a "blind" comment if one of the running mates were blind? Obama's lack of common sense just cracks me up. He almost had my vote. Darn

It never ceases to amaze me that philosophers, scholars, and writers in droves write about the current fleecing of our constitution our nation, and of the American middle class.

All the while conservatives continue to flock to right wing evangelists, tabloid pundits and GOP theology!
After 7 and a half years of GOP subversion what does the nation have to show? An economy in shambles, unfinished wars more on the horizon and debt so enormous China and other foreign countries now own much of our nations remaining equity!

Conservatism is a dismal failure, the proof is in your house equity, your bank accounts, your paycheck, it's on Wallstreet, its on the shelves of your supermarket, its on the corner gas station, its in Arlington,
on the streets and deserts of Iraq and Afghanistan.

It's in the defiance of Pakistan, Russia, Venezuela and now China!

And so the same old personal song and dance about character, vision and dignity play out across the nation. "Bush has character, he has vision, he is honest, experienced!" We all know the truth of this aberration.

We all know conservatives want to plug in the same theology the same ideology from yet another legislator that represents the betrayal, the greed and the duplicity that has buried us to this point!

Great nations are upheld and wars are won or lost by the rightness and decency of the participants!
As our nations history goes we have never lost a war when we were right but now we have lost wars because we were ideologically wrong!
It's not just about strength its about wisdom and justice.
Such American qualities that have been inactive during the past seven plus years due to conservative politics!
It right in front of you open your eyes and read!

Thank you for your honesty. Yes, you are correct as John McCain is doing the same thing that George Bush in trying to pimp Christ and look what that has gotten this country! The majority of the voters believed it and now this country is reaping the wrath of God.

I guess the Republicans do not remember the promises that Bush made to the conservatives. He promised to end abortion and homosexual rights. In the natural, the Republicans controlled Congress and the white house and did NOTHING to honor their agreements. I might add, John McCain was there for those six years and he to did NOTHING to honor that agreement that his party so proudly wears out. Therefore, the conservatives once again wants America to believe the same ole lie that Bush told and McCain did nothing to advance. To say that the conservatives so supposed to be so smart, they are appearing to be very dumb, very stupid, very blind etc because these people are falling for the same lies. Unbelievable and they want us to follow them!

What does that say about Sarah Palin? If she is a Christian, why would she want to serve on a ticket with a man that goes against God? That tells us that she is not a Christian because a Christian would honor God's word. This is what God says about what Sarah and the rest should not be doing:

1 Corinthians 5:9

9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.

It clearly shows that if Sarah says that she is a Christian, then she is going against the word of God. I pray not to be fooled and I pray that others as well wake up and not follow McCain and Sarah to hell!

emorgan-458233,

Leave Obama's words in the same context that Obama stated it. McCain uttered it and he used McCain's own words that he used against Hillary concerning her policy. At that time, Hillary was the only one in the race that wore lipstick but I do not recall Hillary stating that McCain called her a pig. Did YOU, emorgan-458233, at that time cry foul? Then why are you doing it now? By YOUR summation, then no male candidate should use the word period, cycle, mother etc because she is the only one that has a period/cycle or is a mother. By your summation, then no candidate should use the word black, African, mixed etc in any context because Obama is the only one that would fit that bill. By your summation, then no one should use the words senile, old, gray hair etc because McCain would fit that bill. By your summation then no one could mention tragic accident, wife died etc because Binden would fit that bill. You see, when you start nit picking to advance one's political career, what you have is a ticking time bomb and an internal war waiting to happen! Keep Obama's words in context and stop passing the propaganda!

rube r.,

AMEN!

Oh, puh-leeze! The phrase "Putting lipstick on a pig" has been around for a lot longer that Palin's nomination. You can add a second line that says "it's a waste of lipstick and it annoys the pig", depending upon the situation to which you are referring.

Most THINGS have been around longer than Palin. She should be home with her children and quit before she gets dumped.

Obviously Mike you don't understand the context of Obama's remark, and the deception of the GOP for trying to make an issue of this. Carefully re read the article, then take some time to think.

People who don't think and then open their mouths are dangerous. Like Palin who's first comment was, "What exactly does a Vice President do anyway." That's why the McCain camp has said at first, she will give no interviews, Why? Because she is not able to answer the important questions facing this nation.

After a lot of media criticism about Palin giving no interview then they say, well she will but it will be in the time and manner we want. What do you expect them to say.

All this eye gouging and crotch kicking amounts to a pile of beans, get to the real issues that matter and stop distracting voters with this trivial bs and disingenuous behavior.

We don't want to see a circus sideshow just show us what you are going do for our country and our economy.

Words mean nothing, actions speak louder and that goes for both sides. Walk the talk and do what you say.

This is not important to the Americans people i bet you like war any 1 can call on troops you must have never worked in your life stop looking at the man color and start listing 2 what he is saying I hate high gas prices old stain McCain trying 2 hide the facts what has the GOP party been saying for the past 2 weeks not a thing but diss Obama lets talk about money which is green not black or white stop looking at color and land start listing to what he is saying right now I hear a lot of Dems talk that BS the will vote for Old stain McCain you was never really a Dem THAT OLD WHITE IS RIGHT IS OVER THE CHANGE IS HERE LOL TALK ABOUT DAY TO DAY THINGS

McCain criticized Democratic contenders for offering what he called costly universal health-care proposals that require too much government regulation. While he said he had not studied Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's plan, he said it was "eerily reminiscent" of the failed plan she offered as first lady in the 1990s.

"I think they put some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig," he said of her proposal.

Look, McCain has already co-opted Obama's Change We Can Believe In slogan, he does NOT have the right to reserve an old axiom like "lipstick on a pig" for her personal repetoire of phraseology.

You have a gift that makes you think you know what other people think.

Ignore the full context of the message if you want but this is not the entire thought. You can wrap a fish in old newspaper is the comment they do not like.

Hey hello-again, why don't you just say goodbye and stop waisting your time. You keep harping on this "typical white person" thing. If you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yells is the one that got hit. I think you're the racist. If that is the worst thing in life for you then you're lucky and too stupid to realize it. You must be rich because you don't complain about the high price of gas, utilities, mortgage meltdown, corporate welfare, wars and rumors of wars, responses to natural disasters, healthcare, education etc. etc....You don't know what it means to really be offended. And by the way, you are a TYPICAL WHITE PERSON!!!!!

amfh, Thank you for citing one of the specific occurrences of Mr. McCain's remark.

Obama is a very intelligent and well spoken man. I have never heard anyone better than Obama at delivering a speech teleprompter or not and his wife has a pretty good stage presence as well. Both he and his wife have an excellent command of the English language. So why do we keep hearing from his campaign people that what he said in not what he meant. There has been one slip of tongue after another that needed to be straightened out after someone takes what he says literally. Take the statement about clinging to guns and religion as only one example.

I found this part very interesting...

Obama also is no stranger to attacks on his religion. He's been the subject of a false rumor campaign saying he's a Muslim, and the racially tinged sermons of his longtime former preacher caused problems for his campaign earlier this year.

Racially Tinged?

tinged (tĭnjd), tinge·ing or ting·ing (tĭn'jĭng), ting·es.
To apply a trace of color to; tint.
To affect slightly, as with a contrasting quality: "The air was blowy and tinged with rain" (Joyce Carol Oates).
n.
A small amount of a color incorporated or added.
A slight added element, property, or influence: a tinge of regret.
[Middle English tingen, from Latin tingere.]

Was that what the reverend said, just slightly racist. These are the same people who get upset if I use the expression call a spade a spade, meaning call a shovel a shovel .Don't tell me that a shovel is lipstick when it isn't.

Oh sure, 'a shovel is a shovel'... give me a break!

To all who would on a daily basis with mischief in mind taunt us who are really serious about this election, with old tired race baiting raciest remarks, think about what you are doing to yourselves and your country.

You are keeping alive and illegal practice which is racism. You don't care about change at all.

You have an agenda that you stick to and you are wasting our time.

You don't care about Hillary so stop using her for your own dark and demented script.
This is a serious election and you are in the way.

You have a right to say and believe anything you want to, but when you are deliberately trying to divide us as a people you need to be checked.

Ask yourself a very big question. Can you work side by side with everyone in this country?

By listening to your inflammatory comments that always drips with racism and outrage that a intelligent black man with and intelligent wife would dare grace the political stage with a well ordered life would be insulting to you is typical that you have issues.

Stop wasting our time and get on the change page and be a help and not a hindrance

Wake up, will ya? John McCain himself, HIMSELF, used that very phrase, "lipstick on a pig, and its still a pig" to describe Hillary Clinton's position. Period. Go google it and find out for yourself.

And, since I think many on here are incredibly ignorant of the political world in general, specifically DC, the phrase "lipstick on a pig" has been a catch phrase in Washington for decades, I mean decades....

McPalin can dish it out, but waaa waaa if they think someone is referring to them. C'mon people, how old is that behavior? It has nothing to do with issues, goals, etc for this country.

McCain is not in the mental or physical condition to withstand the rigors of the Presidency; it's not being mean, it's being logical. So who would that leave us with? A pitbull in lipstick. I feel safer already

Spikey, you are one of the few posts on this blog that makes intelligent sense. It is sad and disheartening to see so much hate and racist filth coming from people who are supposed to be somewhat educated. It was amazing that after Sept 11, it appeared we all came together as a nation; all colors. Now, it appears we are more divided than ever. It is scary in that whoever wins the election, I do believe there will be a deep divide and deep resentment in the country. We cannot become strong without everyone of us working together. That is one of the reasons the US is declining and others are becoming the new world powers. So much hatred and so much bickering. Incredible how some can spout off the bible and mention God in one sentence and make disparaging, racist remarks in the next.

Mike you didn't have any respect anyway if it didn't bother you when McCain quoted the exact same words about Hillary. Can you say double-standard?

I agree that Obama was not targetting Palin....he was attacking ALL women.

Who was McCain targeting when he said the very same thing?

Since when did the word lipstick become "Sarah Palin's word"... Why can McCain say it, but not Obama? Stop being racist people... I can't believe that people still make a difference between one race or another... We teach little pre-schoolers that the color of your skin doesn't matter. Calm down now children!

When McCain said it, it was just a saying, because Hillary never talked about lipstick. But since Palin has talked about lipstick before, Obama was obviously targeting her in this comment. Obama needs to listen to every word that Palin says and never use any of those words in a derogatory way. Wasn't he told that the world revolves around the Republicans? Anything that he does or says can and will be used against him in an electoral process. The Republicans, however, can say anything they want. If someone has an issue with it, they're just elitist complainers who can't stand the heat.

Don't be a hypocrite! You never had any respect for him; blinded by your racist and political positions, you can't see past your nose!

Funny how many viewpoints opposing Obama have been collapsed but supporting comments, no matter how vile remain open. This must be the 1st amendment in action. I did read comments from some of you disparaging Governor Palin for the supposed book burning even after it was proven to be a lie. She was never a censor but you demonstrate that you are with every story I read. liberal=hypocrite.

I see my comment and many others was collapsed by the community Thought you Demorats were against censorship.Oh well its what we come to expect from you, say one thing do another.
I see John McCain said it first .So now we know why Obama picked Joseph R. Biden, Jr. There both Plagiarist!LOL!! Obama is loosing it big time!!

OBAMA BIDEN
DURKA DURKA A BURKA FOR EVERY WOMAN!!

Mike - the word "lipstick" has been in use in the campaign's much longer than Palin has been in it (a week, you say). McCain used it back when Hillary was still a nominee. No one took it out of context then and ran a smear ad with it. McCain is playing on the ignorance of the bandwagon mentality.

It was a saying LONG before Palin said anything about her being a pit bull with lipstick. And why are all of you chosing to ignore the second half of Obama's analogy about fish in a piece of paper with the word Change on it?? That absolutely shows, beyond the shadow of a doubt that he was talking about the Republican's campaign on change. It's Obsurd that the McCain camp are trying to twist his words.. give me a break. He never mentioned Palin and has never attacked her. In fact he has been defending her from the start by telling the media to back off her family and her religion and her motherhood...even though she was the one who put her family life in the media spotlight in the first place. The Repubs are so desperate.. Stop misquoting Obama and twisting his words! We don't see the Demos doing that.. Lets deal with the real issues, Please.

Mike

You're message smacks of Rovism...pick out your opponents strong points, then try to belittle them with lies or innuendo. It worked 4 years ago...it won't work this time. By the way, if you would pay attention, you would know who's talking about the issues. It's not McCain and it's certainly not Palin, she's still reading from the speech that Bush's writers gave her for the RNC.

Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the biggest problem between the people and issues on this forum is that MOST people don't have a clear grasp on the English language, metaphors, similies, allusions and other basic functions of the English language.

The pig in lipstick comment means (in my opinion - I am no professor of etiology) that you can't take something ugly and make it pretty by mere decorations. There is no implied reference to gender unless you are adding your own warped interpretations into the mix. Obama could have just as easily made the same point by simply calling McCain's proposed policies a "polished turd" and there would have been less confusion, same message. It was about McCain's policies you idiots.

It's like when that politician (was it a senator? I can't remember) a few years back used the word "niggardly" in a speech and everyone got all worked up and upset when the word has nothing to do with any race at all. People have forgotten how to use a dictionary and perhaps need to re-take 7th grade English.

As for the word "bastard", um, check the dictionary on that one too. I have not seen it misused yet in these comments.

I think when people, such as Obama and McCain both, use such language, they are showing they have faith in the intelligence of "the people" to understand what they mean, I think they are showing respect and I like that about both of them. The general media and Palin's snarky comments, however, show that they know for the most part, they can say whatever they want, imply whatever they want, and the general public is either too stupid or too lazy to educate themselves or understand what is meant. They are like baby birds expecting the parent bird to barf up the pre-digested food to them because they can't do all the digesting on their own.

Mike - You have it wrong....McCain used that expression first. Who do you think you're talking about?....Your own loser, McCain's candidacy.

Don't put all the blame on Obama. Remember McCain said it FIRST

McCain used that analogy to describe Hillary's health care policy, not Hillary. Do you really honestly think that Barack had no clue that it would or could be taken as a personal insult on Palin. That was a prepared speech and Barack knew exactly what he was doing when he said it. If he really wanted to run a dignified and respectable campaign like he claims, why would he put in something that could possibly reflect badly on him??? I also notice that when Barack doesn't have his handy teleprompter he has some trouble answering questions and his responses are not near as smooth as the prepared one.
WAKE UP PEOPLE HE WAS INSULTING HER...NOW INSTEAD OF TAKING CREDIT FOR IT AND MOVING ON HE'S TRYING TO SAY IT WASN'T INTENDED TO BE A PERSONAL ATTACK.
Yeah right!!! LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!!
Maybe he should have picked Hillary as his VP That would have really shown his ability to solve problems and work towards a common goal for the good of the country and would have dealt a losing hand to McCain....guess he's not that good at solving complex problems.

Thanks for bringing up the insinuation he's a Muslim again. That never gets old. Just tired.
==yawn==

Ray - first of all your showing your ignorance by your inability to spell Muhammad, not Mohamed. Secondly, it has been proven that Obama is a Christian (unlike you) and NOT of the Islamic faith. Get over it, move on, and begin to think about the REAL issues, not the made up ones.

I agree the Muslim thing is getting extremely old. Though, it is no more boring than the "McBush" "And voted with Bush 90% of the time", campaign Obama is running on. Especially, if you were to do some research on McCain you will find he has butted heads heads with the Republican establishment on multiple occasions. For crying out loud McCain went against Reagan as a Freshman Congressman.

I thought we already went through the smear campaign accusing Obama of being a radical Muslim; that was the one that was followed by the smear campaign that he was a radical Christian.

I know Obama claims to be a christian. But he has never said "I am not a muslim". Only his handlers say he is not a muslim. I would like to hear those words from him. Someone hear please direct me to a speech or something showing where he said "I am not a muslim".

And its quite apparent he has learned not to throw stones when living in a glass house. Don't attack families or religion is his way of hoping nobody does that to him.

Why should he have to say I am not to anything? This is very old and if we stuck to what are the problems and how we can fix them thing would be better.

We are voting on a president not a religion right. So get over it the man goes to Church and that all you need to know heck you don't need to know that remember in the great USA we separate state and religion.

My response to this issue on newsvine:

Carol said:

The phrase "Putting lipstick on a pig" has been around for a lot longer that Palin's nomination. You can add a second line that says "it's a waste of lipstick and it annoys the pig", depending upon the situation to which you are referring.

Although I know she's right, and McCain's been quoted as using the exact phrase, I've never thought about a pig with lipstick... I own a pitbull and never thought about a pitbull with lipstick either...until proud Palin compared herself to one.

When I think about a "pig" I think about an animal who wallows and rolls around in the mud because it must to survive, since it has no other effective way of cooling off it's body.

Perhaps an effective analogy is that McCain is acting like a pig.... he wallows in mud, slinging it around as a means to discredit his opponent. Why? His ads don't stick to factual information. If he is to survive in this election he has no other way of keeping the American public off of the facts about Obama's positions...

Isn't it one of McCain's new ads that accuses Obama of trying to "corrupt kindergartners by teaching them sex education" when in fact, his "bill" is to "to protect kindergartner's from predators?" Research his bill if you are in doubt. I loved Bill Burton's official statement over said ad:

"It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls -- a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn't define what honor was. Now we know why."

Sounds like McCain is against a bill that promotes educating and protecting our children against predators. Does this mean he's "pro-predator?"

Sorry folks, but when you get on the porch with the big dogs you need to be able to hang with them, and not run off the porch when one lifts his leg to relieve himself on you. Both McCain and Palin knew that from the start. No crying from McCain, his running mate or any McCainites over this.

McCain's camp and supporters will never admit it, but McCain helped Palin to become political fair game because of his campaign and committment to dirty politics. Palin is no different from Hillary who would have most likely been on McCain's dirty hit list (remember - his dirty political joke against Hillary's child?) had she received the Dem nomination or chosen to be the VP pick.

Hillary has repeated proven that she is as tough as nails, and I don't mean the sort that gets manicured. We've already seen how Hillary didn't jump of that porch quickly.

The new American standard of politics - if you are going to run in a major election such as this, and you indulge yourself in dirt by smearing your opponent.... be ready to receive the same - gender no longer counts.

You get what you give... McCain and Palin are getting back, what they gave.

To Rightlyamused, and oh, so many others: I thought this great country of ours was founded on the premise of freedom of religion, and that the very founders of this country came here to escape religious persecution. Why, then, is it that, in every political campaign in which a candidate is not a member of a mainstream Protestant denomination, there are questions about religion? Our nation is made up of fine citizens of all religious beliefs, but, reading your comments, one would assume that simply being suspected of being a Muslim (or Jew, or Hindu, etc.) should be a reason for a person not to be considered for elected office. Obama is not Muslim; however, even if he were, that would not disqualify him for the presidency, nor would it lose him my vote. Hillary did not get my vote in the primary election, not because she is a woman, but because of her positions. By the way, I am a 59 year old, Caucasian Episcopalian woman, who, although a professional, earns less than 40,000 a year, so I don't fit the demographic most often attributed to Obama.

hmmmm... don't we have freedom of religion in this country? Or did that get taken out of the constitution (I can't tell these days.)

Being a muslim does not equal being an islamic radical/extremist. Why is it so difficult to understand that? There are millions of peaceful muslims who live here in our country. It doesn't mean that they support bin Laden. It means that they have a different theology in their life. That's all.

Obama is not muslim. He is a Christian. But is there some law stating that he couldn't be a Buddhist or Jewish and still run for office?

The ignorance of the people of my own country is staggering.

VC, We did have Freedom of Religion, but Bush and Co. have been chewing away at the Constitution for 8 years, now. Most recent is the HHS Executive(overreach) Rule limiting your right to decide what to do with your own body. This rule was successfully floated because of Mr. Bush's personal religious agenda. It was a huge bite out of the First Amendment.

And...I couldn't agree more that it is not pertinent WHAT religion a person practices or if they even have one at all. It is not in the job requirements.

Just more racism

You know whats tired for me? The GOP's lies sending this country down the toilet.

Umm... Ray? Hi Ray, here is your Koran you asked for. I'm sure you'll want to read it before you start making assumptions about other religions.

Good Christians don't judge their neighbors, they leave that to God (that's God, not Jesus)

Obama fails on morals, values, background, beliefs and character. But let us examine the Jr. Senator's economics ....

HOW BARACK HUSSEIN'S TAX INCREASES WILL SQUELCH OUR ECONOMY AND LOWER TAX REVENUES

A really good video that gives you the gist of what happens when you raise taxes by the Cato Institute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?aq=f&emb=0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideosearch%3Fq%3Dobama+taxes&v=ADdgmfVWAkM

Barack Hussein Obama wants the economy of The United States of America to look like the stagnant economies of France or Russia. That's what it really boils down to if you look at it from a different angle.

Use your common sense. When has higher taxes helped our economy? Never. And do we want our economy to resemble Europe's? I don't!

And don't get fooled by the Junior Senator's tax break to the masses trick. What's the use of a dinky check at the end of the year when your employer is cutting your salary? Or worse? Laying you off.

About the Cato Institute:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_institute

Why does Obama have to apologize and McCain Doesn't for saying the exact same thing? Double standards? Oh let me guess only white people are allowed to say that...ok I get it now...cool. Guess its irrelevant that lipstick is made of pig fat...so technically a pig wouldn't wear lipstick. Point is, if he did mean to direct the comment towards Palin then he should apologize, but so should McCain for saying the same thing about Hillary - it goes both ways. If he honestly didn't mean it as a slur again Palin then let it go....name calling is so high school this is a Presidential campaign for crying out loud. This country will always be childish and that's crazy....I'm surprised McCain didn't come back with "I know you are but what am I" - Whatever this whole thing is a big joke and whoever wins the Presidency may God have mercy on us for voting for him!

Ray - You must be part of McCains Rovian smear campaign. Apparently you were put up to writing your comments. How sad to waste the space.

Dr. Whaat??? You're a moron!!

Another thing that's getting old is the McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. They don't want to talk about the 10% of the time he voted with the Democrats. What % did Obama vote with the republicans? This extremely stupid back and forth over petty things that have nothing to do with the issues is getting old. Both sides need to answer me. WHERE"S THE BEEF?

Obama shouldnt have to apologize. Lets talk about the shots she took at him. Did he call anything? Only thing Obama called out were the lies that they conjure up and calls out the crap they the ones who dont want to vote for him use as a reason to not look at the truth about each candidate. Lets not even go there regarding Hillary (Roy Wilson). You cant even name a time he disrespected Hillary, But I can tell you the many time that McCain and others disrespected Obama.He is here running a campaign on issues and McCain is running on on the idiocy and foolish pride of people. Having Palin as his Vp is a slap in the face to her because in the beginning he was sexist to her and all other women. "Shes a good looking candidate",The hottest VP from the coolest state, and she was even comparing women to dogs? Oh yeah Roy Wilson he practically called Hillary a "Bitch" because he didnt put one of his supporters at a meeting in line. Lets keep it on the facts and Issues like why 1out of 6 soldiers are likely to voter for McCain and how yet again Bush is taking Obama's talking points and carrying them out before he leaves office and leaves Mccain talking about the surge that even without his consent would have happened. Talk about the war and other issues that he is wrong on Iraq wrong, Russia super wrong, Iran wrong,Afganistan wrong, Economy wrong,Pakistan wrong, Sept. 11 attacks wrong, 4000+ troops dead wrong(place), health care wrong,taxes wrong, women rights wrong, minority rights wrong,veterans health issues wrong, education wrong, GI- BILL wrong.
Since Obama has been running for president look how much flak he has gotten for his policy plans and then look at how Bush has taken it into action and look at the results. Now compare them to what Mccain says and think of the reaction.More war more deaths and the constant decline of the U.S.A. and the more a for sale sign will be in the heart of our country. Its already happening, just look and you will see.

I don't care if Obama is a Muslim, sounds a little racist to make an accusation without proof to back it up. I don't care if Palin is a very religious Christian, and McCain is not right wing enough. This is America. I do care what policies McCain/Palin are going to bring forward if they are elected. Talk about issues and quit bringing the campaign down to the Rove/Limbaugh level. Alot of us are geting fed up of the personnel attacks. Obama has at least given all his proposals and told how he intends to pay for them. I'm still waiting for McCain's plan, and if it's the old give it all to corporate America so the CEO's can keep those big bonuses, we're getting off the bus.... Talking about morals, how about instead of having a church benefit to pay off 60K of a 240K medical bill, let's provide health insurance to everyone so they won't have a 240K bill. That's the real Christian thing to do. Only country in the Western world except South Africa that doesn't make sure health insurance is a right, not a privledge...

Anniek, Maggie, VC22 et al:
Your response to my comment seems to imagine that somewhere in my comment I say that a Muslim cant run for office, that muslims are all radical, or that being a muslim is a bad thing.

I said nothing of the kind.

Im saying Barack chooses his words too carefully to avoid saying "I am not a muslim". you would think with all the questions about it he would just state that. Not leave it to others to say it for him, but never say it himself.

As you have correctly pointed out, he is free to be whatever religion he wants. We have freedom of religion in this country. And I am free to vet the politicians I am expected to vote for or against. I am entitled to use whatever information I deem important in that regard. Religion has a huge impact on the formation of ones belief system which guides ones moral compass. It is hugely important to assess a candidates moral compass.

You're right, he doesn't have to deny it. If he claims to be a christian, a christian who's only access to christian beliefs is the twenty years he sat in Wrights church, who seems to pick and choose what he believes from the christian Bible, that is the information in my decision. But that doesn't carry him very far with me.

I've never heard McCain say "I am not a Muslim".

How can I trust him???????

What a RACIST comment.

You were outraged about the Rev Wright issues? If so why would would you be if you believe Obama is a Muslim?

common sense,
No you didn't hear McCain say he was a muslim. Apparently nobody ever asked him if he was a muslim. But I'm sure if you did, I think he would say something like " No, I am not a muslim. Never have been." As far as you not knowing whether you can trust him because of that, thereby implying you cant trust a muslim, well, thats your racial demon to deal with. Good luck with that.

Rob,
The Reverend Wright issues and the Muslim issues are two separate things. Reverend Wright is one of the shepards mentioned in the Bible who lead the lambs astray (you know the passage I'm talking about). So that that is the Christian teaching Obama recieved concerns me. That tells me what developed his moral compass (along with corrupt Chicago politics, Ayers, Rezko etal).

I supported John McCain in 2000. In my opinion, what George W. Bush did to him in the Carolinas was despicable, and made it impossible for me to ever vote for Bush. In my view, the presidential elections are entirely about the characters of the candidates. Times change so policies change, but I believe a person's character, a person's core, is immutable. The facts about John McCain's youth, that he goofed off in school, coming in 5th from the bottom of the 899 cadets in his class, that he got into and through Annapolis through his Admiral father's influence, that he was captured and imprisoned in Viet Nam, that in his old age he says he can't remember how many houses he owns or how much money he has, I take all these with a grain of salt. The young often grow out of their foolishness and perform a brave act, and the old sometimes forget.
I just can't bring myself to vote for someone I now know to be an adulterer.
This year I learned that John McCain met Carol Shepp, a swimsuit model from Philadelphia, in 1964. They married in '65 and had a daughter. While John was imprisoned in Nam, Carol was in an accident that ruptured her spleen, broke her arm and her hip, and crushed both her legs, leaving her six months in the hospital. Two more years and 23 operations left Carol four inches shorter than when she'd first met John. When John was released from Nam, he told friends she was "…not the woman I married." His POW status allowed him to strike up a friendship with the Reagans. While Carol worked in Ronald Reagan's 1976 presidential campaign, John had extramarital affairs. In 1979, a 42 year old John chased a 24 year old beer distributor heiress, Cindy Lou Hensley, around a buffet table set up to honor veterans, and had a relationship. Months later John shocked Carol and the Reagans with his divorce demand. I have yet to hear that the Reagans forgave him.
Now John has admitted his sin and I can forgive, as Jesus would have me do. But then, it's not hard to forgive a man for breaking his solemn promise to someone else. And if he and Carol had agreed to a divorce, releasing each other from their vows, before he started having affairs, I could forget. But John couldn't wait. And now he proposes to share the Oval Office with a former beauty pageant "Miss Congeniality". What I can't do is ever trust a man who breaks the most sacred oath a person ever takes, "…to love and to cherish…in sickness and in health…till death do us part."
I suppose there are those who would see nothing wrong with doing what John did and would find some way to defend it, but I believe that to keep our sacred oaths against the pull of animal instinct is where true courage and true character are found.
How can he ever be trusted to keep any promise he makes about judges or the unborn or anything else, if he can't keep the most sacred one?

Did you say that when McCain said the same thing about Hillary's health care plan? I doubt it!

Thinker, the problem is, you're not thinking but emoting.

it is in the record. McCain said it about Hilary, also used same phrase with Romney. Not sexist in any way.

BTW, I heard this morning a McCain commercial that claims Obama wants to teach sex education to pre-schoolers. Apparently it was in reference to a bill, supported by many republicans, to protect children from sexual predators.
I used to have respect for McCain but he's really shown his true colors.

Rev. Wright, Obama's former minister who milked his 15-minutes-of-fame for about two weeks, is a radical Christian, not a radical Muslim. Or are you saying that Obama is BOTH?--that would be an original angle!

I did in 2000 but no more

Thinker you are a..................................HYPOCRITE

I will say this. I am not sure Obama was directing the Lipstick remark at Palin, but I can see how it could be misconstrued. If in fact it was directed at Palin, you could not compare that with directing the same remark to an ill fated program. Apples and Oranges

'Thinker', It might be good for you to select a more suitable moniker.

MRT, what point about your comment points to McCain true colors?

He doesn't think the government needs to teach preschoolers about sexual predators? Is there something wrong with that? Shouldn't parents be the ones to decide what should be taught to their 4 year old about sex? I suppose you think thats the governments job.

Or is it that McCain put Obamas position out to the public?

You think kindergarteners shouldn't be taught about inappropriate touching? As a mother, I know that kids of that age need reinforcement of these lessons at home, and support from the teachers and schools. Two days ago my daughter brought home a warning letter from school about three incidents in two weeks in which a man had been inappropriately approaching kids in that area. Do you see something wrong with allowing teachers to discuss such a serious danger and support teaching about stranger danger? Or is child sexual assault just not that important to you?

Thinker, the idea that Barack Obama was referencing Sarah Palin is YOUR (and others) creation. Perhaps if you paid attention to the context and what he was saying rather than jumping to conclusions that have no basis in fact but are an easy but erroneous way to support a particular side in this campaign, you'd be able to see the reality - as opposed to the fantasy you are creating here.

As a working woman I am totally energized by Sarah Palin.
Barack Obama has shown that he does not have the common sense
with his remarks to be President, he is a sexist, and quite frankly he is a total jerk.
And his running mate, Joe Biden, is the Good Old Boys that older women, like me, really
can't stand, they have pushed woman around all our lives and we will not take it any more.

Everytime the press or Obama bashes Sarah Palin, I send more money to the Republican Party.

I am part of the "Tell 50 Campaign" which says "Tell 50 People to donate after any bashing
of Sarah Palin by media or Democrats and tell them to tell 50". Power to Women!! Go, Girl, Go!!

P.S. My husband and his buddies even like Sarah more.... she is a winner... she is us... she is an American.
Sarah loves America, and Michelle Obama hates America.

McCain said the same thing. Is it ok for a republican, but not for a democrat, and if so why?

Delores, Can you tell me exactly where Palin stands on all of the issues, including all of the international issues?

mscottring- It's not okay for either side IF they're using it in a derogatory way toward a person, and not their policies. The fact that Palin used the lipstick joke a week ago should have been enough for Obama's speech writer to think twice before using such a similar line. The crowd's reaction showed exactly how they perceived the comment. Whether it was meant as a personal attack is uncertain; whether it was in poor taste is very certain.

Rightly Amused, with regard to 15.10:

It's also an unfortunate fact that many cases of child abuse involve a relative, even a parent.

Most children are abused by someone they know and trust, although boys are more likely than girls to be abused outside of the family. A study in three states found 96 percent of reported rape survivors under age 12 knew the attacker. Four percent of the offenders were strangers, 20 percent were fathers 16 percent were relatives and 50 percent were acquaintances or friends. Among women 18 or older, 12 percent were raped by a family member, 33 percent by a stranger and 55 percent by an acquaintance.
http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/PUBLICATIONS/factsheet/fsabuse1.htm

Children need to learn about predators in school to defend themselves, because leaving it up to the parents opens a door for predators in the home itself.

Yes Delores, do tell. I've been asking this question all over the place, and no one seems to have an answer as to where this woman stands on the issues. Every time I ask I'm called an OBama lover, or a dem lover, but so far no answers to the question. If you have inside information that no one else has, please share.

He reveals himself each time he opens his mouth....but it's all just stupid politics...who cares. It would be better if all politicians could learn and practice intelligent discourse, as should all of us bloggers. Actually, all of America should learn to practice polite, intelligent discourse, starting with the phrase "I respectfully disagree..." has anyone ever heard the phrase "pigs don't know pigs stink?"

Delores:

How, precisely, is Biden part of the Good Old Boys network, but McCain is not? And you do remember that Palin is the bottom of the repubican ticket, while Obama (definitely not a Good Old Boy) is the top of the Dem ticket?

As for the remark being sexist, please tell us... in what way does it denigrate women? Even if it was a specific reference to Palin herself, and not to the McCain campaign, surely you don't think that just any woman makes a good candidate. Palin has demonstrated considerable ignorance about world affairs, and even about the job of the vice president. She does appear to be little more than window dressing for the McCain campaign. How, precisely, is the present attempt by the Bush campaign to tutor her on national and international politics not an attempt to put lipstick on a pig? Don't we deserve a vice president who doesn't need to be given a crash course by a failed administration in order to do the job?

How can you attack Michelle Obama and say she hates the country, and Palin loves the country. Michelle Obama is not running for office, Palin is.

Why isn't anyone attacking Mrs. McCain, for being a homewrecker??????????

Fedup,

Anyone who has the ability to read will see this was not, in any way, about Palin:

On a campaign stop Tuesday, Obama criticized McCain economic policies as more of the same from the Bush administration. He said: "You can put lipstick on a pig ... it's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper called change. It's still going to stink after eight years."

ten-

Michelle Obama has made statements on camera saying that "America is downright mean", and "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change." These are comments she made while out stumping for her husband, so yes, it IS relevant because this is the candidate's wife - the person he chose to spend the rest of his life with. There is something to be said for the company you keep. (Not to mention the 20 years they spent listening to Rev. Wright's views on America)

Mrs. McCain, first of all, hasn't been stumping for her husband, spewing anti-American sentiments. Second, the divorce was 28 years ago, they've been married that long, and John McCain has admitted it was his greatest moral failure. Get over it.

@ superlogi: Again, why was it okay for Sarah Palin and Rudy Guliani to openly mock Barack Obama's history as a community organizer during the RNC? Did the audience shake their heads in disapproval of those super sarcastic statements? No, they were roaring in approval! And that wasn't even an simile that's been used countless times in the past, it was just good ole' mockery.

You might have room to talk if Obama were running ads illustrating Palin as a pig. He's not. So, it's time to find a better argument. I heard "Obama is a Muslim" still has some takers.

Fedup...
First off, I do believe Cindy McCain did speak on her husband behalf just as Mrs. Obama did at the Dem Convention, correct?

Get over it... Is my thoughts exactly, why are we still speaking about comments made by Michelle Obama... Is she on the ticket... And since when does your spouse determine whether or not you are smart enough and tactical enough to be President.... Let's be fair here...

So should Palin be criticized and attacked for her religious leaders' comments and guest speakers comments? I'm trying to grasp the concept of fairness hear. I need to know why on oneside it's not okay, but on the other end it is... I'm not sure what's going on here... Here church believes that they can cure homosexual people through prayer... And that may be their belief, not saying it's wrong or right, but isn't that some strong views to have as a Vice Presidential Candidate, when religion and politics should be separate... Why is it that people can say, that just because Palin was in attendance, doesn't mean those are her views, but Obama, wasn't in attendance during some of the statements made by his former pastor, and he be railroaded for something someone else says....

American needs to be fair, if subjects for one party are off limits and excusable, then it should be the same for the other, don't you agree...

I would hate to believe that you could be a doctor, and are not fair to all Americans, or be a teacher, and teaching one way to certain children and another way to other children, or a police officer, giving a pass to one citizen and not the other....

Immoral is Immoral..... 8 years ago (Bill Clinton or 28 years ago).... Wrong is Wrong....

Another question... Would you have voted for Palin to be the Vice Presidential Nominee? Do you feel that should has what it takes to be President, or do you just feel that pulling the gender card to recruit Hillary supporters, is the "By any means necessary" tactic that should be used to win

You are truly being rediculous.

So when McCain does wrong it's "Get over it"? You, sir, are the perfect example of the republican hypocrite! Remember Henry Hyde, the senator who headed the committee to impeach Clinton for having an affair? When it was discovered he himself had an affair, it was just "a youthful indiscretion". Your beloved Newt Gingrich started the whole "clinton had an affair" but backed off when it was discovered he was having an affair with an intern at the same time! You hypocrites sicken me.

ten- What anti-American sentiments has Cindy McCain ever spoken while campaigning for her husband? What anti-American sentiments has anyone in Sarah Palin's church made(either current or former church)? That's all I was commenting on.

As for the affair, I don't condone his actions (or those of anyone from either party who cheats on their spouse), but neither do I hold something that happened 30 years ago over their heads and make it a condition of their eligibility to be president. If you consider that hypocracy, there's nothing more I can say.

I think you are all fighting over this election for the same reason you always do, because it's fun. I see Obama going after the young, inexperienced vote because they will believe what he says. Most of you, by now, should know better. I imagine that McCain wishes that he could get them to believe him. The fact is all of these polutaticians take polls. We gladly respond to them in print or by phone for our chance to tell the bums what we think. Once they've been told what we think they adjust their beliefs, and speeches, to the current audience. Both McCain and Obama have done it and will continue to do so until McCain's "gates of hell" are frozen solid.

The indignant news media of left or right persuasion recite blustering accusations against which ever candidate doesn't conform to their beliefs, FLIPFLOPPER! Both sides are right and both candidates are exactly what they've been accused of unless they have actually changed their position on a given issue. Do any of you really believe that either of these bozos intend to do what they say once in office? If you really want to change your country for the better, change it back to the law and treat yourself and the people who will have to deal with the government we leave them to the Constitution of the United States of America.

Forget these two clowns and pay attention to whom or what you are sending to the Senate and Congress. If you take seriously the Preamble to your Constitution then understand the statement "government for the people and by the people." These clowns are not the government. We are. When we keep the pressure on Congress and the Senate to do the job they were elected for by phone, fax, email, snail mail and in person we can force them to obey the law and the will of the people. At present we have a traveling side show in Bush, Pelosi, Obama, McCain, Clinton and an endless list of socialists and globalists who are without doubt taking America in the wrong direction. If we are willing to work at it, we can still take it back.

I agree. However, the problem is that O'Bama is great at pointing out what is wrong with this country, but has yet to define any solutions for what is wrong. It's pretty easy to sit and point out the flaws in our country, it's quite another to be able to formulate actual solutions (not slogans) to these problems.

Kris, Jahandrel, you have good points, I was a bit hasty. Preschoolers should be taught about inappropriate touching, and most seem to be. And I do know that some teachers are trained to watch for signs of this.

I attempted to find more on exactly what the bill being referenced was. I could not find anything. It is something I would like to know more on, and I will keep looking. This was a bill in the Illinois senate. However I did find that in the Illinois senate BO was on the wrong side of three other bills about predators, numbers SB 485, SB 2008, and HB 338. He was the ONLY dissenter on SB485. And I find some debate transcripts with him fumbling around his position on presumbably the bill in question. So now the cynic in me really want to find that bill to see what he was REALLY up to.

fedupwithliberals:
Do you really understand what you said? Do you understand how many republicans have used the term "lipstick on a Pig'? Do you know who wrote the book "Lipstick On A Pig"? Do you know why that book was written? Do you recall Mr McCain saying 'Lipstick on a Pig" when he talked about Hilary?
News flash madam, John Banor used the term in April, 2008. Senator Kyle AZ used the term in 2005. Senator Rick Santourim used it. Rod Graham of Minnesota used "Lipstick on a Pig". John Ensley used it recently.
"Lipstick on a Pig" is a phrase commonly used by republicans. Do you know who Tory Clark is? Tory Clark is press secretary for Senator John McCain R. AZ. Tory Clark in her book "Lipstick on a Pig", wrote how you use the phrase. She wrote to teach people that "spin is becoming increasingly vunerable as information sources are proliferated, spin is no longer viable, or put it in another way, YOU CAN PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG, BUT IT's STILL A PIG.....Tory Clark was saying, It's a standard usage phrase for cutting through spin. That is exactly how Barack Obama used "Lipstick on a Pig". Republicans use this standard phrase all the time.
"Obama was not referring to Sarah Palin". Obama was not being sexist. Obama was smart enough to understand the phrase came from Tory Clarks book. He knew that Tory Clark was McCains press secretary, and that Clark had taught McCain how to use the phrase to cut through spin. But how dare a democrat use this phrase.
GOOGLE. Or buy the book. Don't take my word.